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I'm with JBT, over 12k and not a single problem that i didnt cause, like light surface scratches from tree branches in the woods. No rattles even after running 40-45 thru washouts on red clay roads. Bad enough to cause the rear end to drift around some curves. I have not notices and paint defects nor rattles in the seat belt. I guess I got a Wednesday truck instead of a Monday truck.


You know, I had a few rattles to start. But then, I ran down 100miles of forestry roads and I think that settled everything!
 
Wear that is flaking off outer layer of leather. I used a sharpy marker to cover the exposed white to help hide the issue. That leather panel also is flaking at the seams. This started early on. Clearly a defect in that leather. It looks worse in person and before I put sharpy on the seams and other areas.
Well, to tell you the truth, you are the first person on this website to ever post a picture of this problem. That's a fact. I know because I was a mod here when these trucks were brand new. I'm sure if it wasn't a problem caused by you, that GM would fix it. It kinda looks like scratches to me. No? Maybe it's bad photo? Maybe make the dealer fix that?
 
Why would I buy a pickup? Well first off I bought this particular truck Because it has a Neutral transfer case setting. It is setup to flat tow behind my Motorhome. There are only a few vehicles that can be used this way. So there now you know. No I didn't buy it to look cool. I've owned several Porsche's that served better in that department. Regardless of why I bought this is the fact that it has pissed me off now and I've begun to start the divorce proceedings. I'm retired and follow the different forums for all my vehicles as a hobby. I maintain them to the highest level and learning from other owners is a strong tool. I want to like this truck, but the last straw is the latest issue. I know they can fix it so maybe I should calm down? It does tow nice behind a Motorhome, but installing the required equipment was a huge job. Took two full days.
You just stated in an earlier post that you are trading this in for a BMW or a Mercedes. What? Does it take less time to set up a different vehicle behind your motorhome? One of those? I'm not getting what you are saying. And, what was the last straw that is the latest issue? Just curious. The leather or the paint? Or a squeak? I never saw any photos of leather looking like that here unless someone damaged it. I would make the dealer replace it, if in fact it just fell apart. This hasn't been a problem here at all. Anyhow, good luck.
 
I'm with JBT, over 12k and not a single problem that i didnt cause, like light surface scratches from tree branches in the woods. No rattles even after running 40-45 thru washouts on red clay roads. Bad enough to cause the rear end to drift around some curves. I have not notices and paint defects nor rattles in the seat belt. I guess I got a Wednesday truck instead of a Monday truck.


You know, I had a few rattles to start. But then, I ran down 100miles of forestry roads and I think that settled everything!
I had a squeak by the seatbelt, but I gave it a chuck Norris stare, and it hasn't bothered me sence.
 
When I read reviews like this I feel like I am reading about another truck. This is one of the tightest vehicles I've driven. Maybe all the cheap plastic in the WT is secured better, LOL.
Me too...zero issues through 17k miles some of those being beaten on whoop laiden trails in Ocotillo (So Cal dessert)
 
Why would I buy a pickup? Well first off I bought this particular truck Because it has a Neutral transfer case setting. It is setup to flat tow behind my Motorhome. There are only a few vehicles that can be used this way. So there now you know. No I didn't buy it to look cool. I've owned several Porsche's that served better in that department. Regardless of why I bought this is the fact that it has pissed me off now and I've begun to start the divorce proceedings. I'm retired and follow the different forums for all my vehicles as a hobby. I maintain them to the highest level and learning from other owners is a strong tool. I want to like this truck, but the last straw is the latest issue. I know they can fix it so maybe I should calm down? It does tow nice behind a Motorhome, but installing the required equipment was a huge job. Took two full days.
Wait you owned porsche’s And your complaining about rattles? I used to valet park cars when I was younger and porsche’s rattle like crazy. I have no rattles in my truck luckily sorry about your bad experience but it can happen to any car by any brand.
 
No matter the make model or Brand there are problem models.

Often web sites are flooded with low post number people complaining. That is not to say they are lying but the nature is to vent so you see the post. As it gets here the complaint post are low compare to most vehicles.

But even the Germans and Asian.

Mfg all have cars with issues as most brands are close in quality anymore.

Mostly this all comes down to how the mfg and or dealer deals with the issue.

Sorry to see trouble here most of this can be corrected by a good dealer and nothing more will come of it.

most here have not had issues and those who have had them dealt with and got on enjoying truck. Give it a shot and let the dealer address it and odds are good you will go on trouble free.
 
I've had many 'interior' panels come unsnapped & such (rattles, noises).
My Collision Alert plastic cover comes unsnapped. I think I've snapped it in place at least twice. Door panels / speaker rattles - press and snap panels back in place. Just the other day washing the interior....the whole side panel between front door & back door was sticking out farther than normal. Oh....look....push and snap in place. I had my 'wood looking' panel on the passenger door replaced becuase the snaps were bitched up from the factory and I couldn't snap it back in place.
 
I admit that if I had paid 45k for this truck I too would be tremendously unhappy. In my eyes, It's a 25k platform and there is nothing on earth they can do to make it worth 20k more.
 
I admit that if I had paid 45k for this truck I too would be tremendously unhappy. In my eyes, It's a 25k platform and there is nothing on earth they can do to make it worth 20k more.
I completely agree, except that the way to fix it is not buy the Truck if you believe it isn't worth what GM wants for it....not cry about it after the fact...
 
The prices of these trucks and their accessories are slowly creeping up and up. At the beginning of the 2016 model year in July of 2015, you could build and price a 2016 Colorado Z71, V6, 4x4, extended cab at under $32,000 sticker price. My Chevy black bow ties were only $100.00 which is still a rip off. I think the only accessory that hasn't gone up in price is the Bose radio with nav. I guess people are buying a lot of these trucks.
 
Here is the deal $25,00 does not buy much anymore. The average. Out of a car is now $35,000 and that is just average.

This truck is not an opened end price model where they can start low and go up to what ever they get. Let's face it this truck becomes a tough sale north of $38,000.

They sell in numbers of what 200k 250k but not like the full size that sell nearly 2 million in half ton and then shares parts with the larger platforms. This leverages the cost more making it stil, profitable with even large discounts due to volume.

You can get a $25,000 truck but you are going to lose something along the way like size, even more quality or level of ability.

The fact is all vehicles are over priced and will continue to get more expensive hence why GM and others are investing in ride sharing companies.

The reality is everyone wants to be a millionaire but they want to shop at WalMart. The trouble is that just does not work.

The one thing we have true solice in is the resale value of our trucks is much greater than most vehicles out there generally in the top 5 in the American market.

I was at a dealer today with used Canyons with 30k miles and twonyears old priced at $32,000. Few vehicles would lose around $5,000 over two years as most do more than that in the first month.
 
Here is the deal $25,00 does not buy much anymore. The average. Out of a car is now $35,000 and that is just average.

This truck is not an opened end price model where they can start low and go up to what ever they get. Let's face it this truck becomes a tough sale north of $38,000.

They sell in numbers of what 200k 250k but not like the full size that sell nearly 2 million in half ton and then shares parts with the larger platforms. This leverages the cost more making it stil, profitable with even large discounts due to volume.

You can get a $25,000 truck but you are going to lose something along the way like size, even more quality or level of ability.

The fact is all vehicles are over priced and will continue to get more expensive hence why GM and others are investing in ride sharing companies.

The reality is everyone wants to be a millionaire but they want to shop at WalMart. The trouble is that just does not work.

The one thing we have true solice in is the resale value of our trucks is much greater than most vehicles out there generally in the top 5 in the American market.

I was at a dealer today with used Canyons with 30k miles and twonyears old priced at $32,000. Few vehicles would lose around $5,000 over two years as most do more than that in the first month.
The used truck market is broken right now... mostly because of suckers who think used is always a better deal. I've met many of them in real life. I can't get a used v6 2015 Colorado for what I paid for my new 2017, and that's with the inferior old motor and trans. I got my truck for $26k (granted I had to walk away from 2 dealers 3 times to finally make that price happen) and I am super happy with it. Everything I need and nothing I don't. Everything right down to the I0B radio with android auto is perfect, AA is all you need. If you get the custom special edition package, nobody will even realize your WT is a WT if you care what people think. Even If you felt like you needed 4x4 you would still be under 30k. The best part is you can just upgrade the specific things you want. Say you felt like you needed fog lights, no problem you can get those for $70. You want the leather look dash, no problem $500. Different seats? Plenty of them out there. You want the leather center console, sure, $100. Bose speakers, $60. Just keep an eye on the junkyard listings and replace everything you want. In my case the only thing I really felt was missing was a softer center console lid.

All it would take to decimate the used truck market is a $1 a gallon increase in gas prices. Suddenly they will be giving used trucks away, mid-sized trucks will probably do the best though. It seems people are obsessed with buying as much as they can possibly afford and this brief lul in gas prices thanks to shale oil has made many Americans think they can afford a truck.
 
While there has been slow downs the truck market and CUV markets continue to thrive.

Gas has only had limited effects over a limited time. If anything it would enhance the appeal of the smaller trucks.

you can slow it but it is one segment hard to stop.

The reality most will not play the buy the work truck game and then buy everything to fix it up. ,Amy can't do it and many more won't do it.
 
While there has been slow downs the truck market and CUV markets continue to thrive.

Gas has only had limited effects over a limited time. If anything it would enhance the appeal of the smaller trucks.

you can slow it but it is one segment hard to stop.

The reality most will not play the buy the work truck game and then buy everything to fix it up. ,Amy can't do it and many more won't do it.
Don't even get me started with CUVs. LOL. Things that really grind my gears. At least toyota's commercials are honest about who these stupid, slow, and overpriced lifted hatchbacks are being made for. I've never met a CUV driver that wouldn't be better served by a Honda Fit.
 
Wear that is flaking off outer layer of leather. I used a sharpy marker to cover the exposed white to help hide the issue. That leather panel also is flaking at the seams. This started early on. Clearly a defect in that leather. It looks worse in person and before I put sharpy on the seams and other areas.
At first look at that pic, I thought the old screwdriver or other tool in the back pocket seat tear.

Dealer should cover that absolutely no question.

Good to use a quality leather cleaner and conditioner quite often, it really makes a difference.
 
Don't even get me started with CUVs. LOL. Things that really grind my gears. At least toyota's commercials are honest about who these stupid, slow, and overpriced lifted hatchbacks are being made for. I've never met a CUV driver that wouldn't be better served by a Honda Fit.
While a fit is all anyone needs it is not what anyone wants.

The best ecessment was the commercial the guy is being shown a CUV and tells the salesman thank you from saving me from a mini van.

The truth is we could go cheaper and simpler in most parts of our lives but where is the fun in that.

If we were also honest over half the truck owners could live with out them, 4x4 and a V6 or V8 too. But again where is the fun in that either.

The CUV is a tall car and something women love and men are secure enough to be seen in.

Let's face it Amanda who drives a mini van daily is secure with himself for sure but often looked at as man with a wife with a large purse to hold his pair for him. Lol!

There is an ego and emotional factor to spending this much money and that is why we have so many choices.

The bottom line is what ever it takes to make the sale so more power to them.
 
The prices of these trucks and their accessories are slowly creeping up and up. At the beginning of the 2016 model year in July of 2015, you could build and price a 2016 Colorado Z71, V6, 4x4, extended cab at under $32,000 sticker price. My Chevy black bow ties were only $100.00 which is still a rip off. I think the only accessory that hasn't gone up in price is the Bose radio with nav. I guess people are buying a lot of these trucks.

I agree. I've been looking at the new Twins since 2015 before we finally ordered out 2017 in January. Prices have creeped up but improvements were added also.

Still , with a bit of rebate and discounts we were able to get our 2017 LT CCSB just under $32K. This is with the Luxury and Convenience Packages which includes leather and quite a few other upgrades.

We were ok with the sale price.
 
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