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Yes, 9X7=63 frontal surface area
LOL. I've seen people abbreviate SAE as SA and I read it as 63' LOA SA. I was looking at the photo for a few minutes trying to compute. I've been at work too long. :LOL:
 
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Yes, loaded
Yes, 9X7=63 frontal surface area
LOL. I've seen people abbreviate SAE as SA and I read it as 63' LOA SA. I was looking at the photo for a few minutes trying to compute. I've been at work too long. :LOL:
The part that confused me is that it's not called (frontal) surface area, it's just frontal area whether talking about trailers, planes, or anything else where you're talking about aerodynamics. If they said 63ft^2 then it would've clicked where 63' is linear.

Anyway...mystery solved. :)
 
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My first truck and my first trailer.

2016 Canyon and 2017 Grand Design 2150RB
Trailer GVWR 6695, UVW 5432 hitch weight 450.


Someone mentioned CAT scales, thanks, now I know where to get checked.
I know this is an older post, but curious how long/far you towed with this set up and your overall impression now.

Thanks and stay safe!
 
The part that confused me is that it's not called (frontal) surface area, it's just frontal area whether talking about trailers, planes, or anything else where you're talking about aerodynamics. If they said 63ft^2 then it would've clicked where 63' is linear.

Anyway...mystery solved. :)
Sorry, my medical background let me slip the incorrect term in there 😊
 
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I don't believe I actually posted this up. So I wanted to do a short write up. First... this was back over the summer in June. The only things I know are the trailer was scaled at 3200lbs empty, and it doesnt have W/D or antisway. I didn't take a picture of the sticker but my buddy who I borrowed it from had it scaled a few times empty and thats more or less what it is +/- 100lbs. Trailer is considered a 22 foot box.

We drove up through NYS on the Thruway to move her out of her apartment. So with stops and visiting friends nearly 700 miles round trip. On the way up empty, we pretty much maintained the flow of traffic in the right lane. So anywhere from 65-75 MPH. Honestly didn't know it was back there. For those who care, we averaged about 15 MPG up on that 300ish mile leg with the trailer.

The ride back I can only guesstimate how heavy we were. The trailer was packed fully floor to ceiling with boxes of mostly clothes, apartment items and a lot of books and furniture. If I had to guess... we sat around 6000lbs. I figure being conservative we'll call it 5500lbs. Now I left a small space accessible from the side door and rear so I could move "ballast". I figured I had no idea how much tongue weight I actually had so I could move roughly 200 lbs front to back or vice-versa. I ended up putting it all forward as the tongue seemed a little light in the parking lot.

Now the day we left we faced some 15-25 MPH cross winds with gusts to 40 at times. So I kept us at a reasonable 65-68 mph. A because without weight distribution the steering axle got a little light and B I was in no rush on the return trip. Not like scary slam on the brakes and lose control light or anything like that or snap between lanes and lose control... just light like towing a reasonably heavy load and not having WD to sure things up. In an ideal world I'd have had that on that trip but he nor I had one to use...

Anyway, truck did it fine even with the cross winds. You knew you had it back there but not anything like I was nervous about it or anything. Due to the high winds we knocked out about 11 MPG on the return trip for those who care (again better than I was expecting).

And overall I was pretty happy until a guy on I believe 287 at the base of a fairly steep incline basically came to a stop in front of me. That was the only time the truck complained as that grade is pretty steep. I was telling my buddy about it who ironically lives up there and is who I borrowed the trailer from and he was impressed it was able to make it back to speed before the top... I basically went foot to floor and held it as when you have traffic flying past you in all lanes at 75+ that's a dangerous situation to be in.

Overall I'd make a few modifications as others have to make it more pleasant but the chassis was very capable. Though I will say that trip is what finally killed my rear leaf springs. WD is a must at that weight with that size trailer and sway control while not necessary would've complimented it as well. The V6 is by far the weakest link but even at that... I was expecting it to be buzzing a lot more as people say it does but I was averaging 2800 rpms or so until inclines and it would drop to 3600 for those... so really not bad and with the radio on low I really didn't notice it at all. Which is surprising to me. I'll also add I got the oil pressure the lowest I'd ever seen it... around 18 psi at idle. I'd imagine it was warm like everything else... trans ran 165-175 the whole way and the hottest I ever saw ECT was 228 on that big grade (when I let off at the top and RPMS dropped which makes sense as flow dropped) and it was 75 degrees outside. It seems the cooling system as a whole is pretty well sized. 230s on hard hard pulls and then tanking back to 190 within seconds is not even scary to me. That is normal on pretty much any vehicle.

Final thoughts: if I were doing that all the time it'd be a diesel. :LOL:

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My thoughts are not exceeding 5000lbs and having double axle WITH brakes on EACH axle.
Thanks for the post.
I hope folks take is that you shouldn’t push that weight rating. Otherwise, moving up to a full size truck may be the wisest choice without the diesel.
Yeah, the V6 lack of torque is a trailering factor.
I pushed the limits trailering on my Trailhawk and didn’t feel comfortable. That is why I bought my 2019 WT.

My setup comfortably works for me. I wouldn’t feel comfortable pushing it any further.
 
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My thoughts are not exceeding 5000lbs and having double axle WITH brakes on EACH axle.
Thanks for the post.
I hope folks take is that you shouldn’t push that weight rating. Otherwise, moving up to a full size truck may be the wisest choice without the diesel.
Yeah, the V6 lack of torque is a trailering factor.
I pushed the limits trailering on my Trailhawk and didn’t feel comfortable. That is why I bought my 2019 WT.

My setup comfortably works for me. I wouldn’t feel comfortable pushing it any further.
My answer to that is... it depends...

The brakes were surprisingly fine. The trailer only has single axle brakes but it stopped nearly as well as not having a trailer behind at all. Not enough of a difference that I'd be concerned anyway. I also don't think the weight is as much of an issue as the size... my skid steer on it's trailer is ~6800lbs and you wouldn't even know it was back there as aside from the machine the trailer/load presents no substantial sail characteristics... same as when I haul 2 ton loads of rebar. Acceleration is longer but maintaining speed is fairly easy as I am not dragging a box/sail. :)
 
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My turn to revive this thread from the dead?

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Just under 23’ toyhauler and 3950 lbs dry. It’s no speed demon but tows it just fine.
Thats great to hear because I am looking to make a custom toy hauler with tantum axles, a V-nose and rear ramp enclosed 8.5'x21' trailer that should be about 3500ibs dry and HOPEFULLY 5,500ibs to 6,500ibs fully loaded with my 750ibs motorcycle in it. And I will tow it around the country HOPEFULLY when I retire in 2yrs 9months. Even though this is a 3rd Gen thread I would think the since this 2nd Gen is towing this trailer which is very close to the size, shape, length, and weight of the trailer I want to tow, the 3rd Gen should have no problems doing it. Thanks for the info.
 
Thats great to hear because I am looking to make a custom toy hauler with tantum axles, a V-nose and rear ramp enclosed 8.5'x21' trailer that should be about 3500ibs dry and HOPEFULLY 5,500ibs to 6,500ibs fully loaded with my 750ibs motorcycle in it. And I will tow it around the country HOPEFULLY when I retire in 2yrs 9months. Even though this is a 3rd Gen thread I would think the since this 2nd Gen is towing this trailer which is very close to the size, shape, length, and weight of the trailer I want to tow, the 3rd Gen should have no problems doing it. Thanks for the info.
8.5' wide vs. 7.5' wide for my trailer will make a difference in overall drag... but the 2.7 does have a lot more torque. If you're really towing 6500 lbs that is probably half ton territory though.
 
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With my 2021 GMC Canyon AT4 Long Bed, incl. OEM tow package, I pull a 2024 Coachmen Freedom Express 20SE. I use a Husky load balancer. The tongue weight of the RV trailer is 512 lbs and GVW is 6,000 lbs. Because we typixally dry camp (boondock), we almost always get the full load of potable water (415 lbs) and about 600 lbs of other gear and misc. items including a 17' Nova Craft prospector canoe. We travel 1,200 mile round trips on average over Eastern Canadian terrain. Truck pulls beautifully, and is verynstable on the highway. I'm upgrading the suspension now with Bilstein 5100 dampeners all around.
 
when asking the group about your 2017 you should post that question in the 2nd gen section since most of the people there have insight on 2nd gens. This is the 3rd gen section. Good luck.
I'm assuming this got moved?
 
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I have this 2017 WT short bed 3.6 gasser just turned 120k looking to buy me a travel trailer soon what size would be a good length trailer to buy? Looking to travel from Southern California to Utah View attachment 485756
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Your question is hard to answer without knowing your needs and goals.
I’d read back through this string to help formulate what you can pull matching your desires for a trailer.
 
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