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I have considered them. They come in my size and, truthfully are probably more than adequate for what I need. Thanks for your opinion on them. I’m seventy years old now so if the weather gets really nasty I should probably just stay home. Always used to suit up in my boots and insulated coveralls, grab my straps and shackles and go riding and pulling people out that got stuck. My buddy and I did it just to help…. never accepted a nickel. I guess these are activities better suited for the young….. damn. I really like that feeling when someone thinks they are going to be stuck and stranded for an extended period of time….. you can tell that maybe they didn’t have a lot of extra money…. and you say no man, don’t worry about it, just be careful. Very satisfying.
yep, done the same for many years
 
Thank you, @Discount Tire . The question presented in the post is still a valid one. Which one is recommended for the Canyon. Can you beat the wholesale store’s discount? How does your warranty transfer? It looks like there are no stores within 75miles from me.
Both Michelin tires you are looking at are great tires. In my personal opinion, I would consider the Cross Climate 2 more of an aggressive A/S tire geared more towards wet, snowy conditions. Given your move to a more tropical climate, I would lean toward the Defender LTX. If you do happen to get in snowy weather conditions, the tire will handle very well, and will transition to dry and rainy weather climates. I think it represents the best of both worlds.

Discount Tire does maintain a low price promise, so if there are questions about pricing we can definitely address that for you. We can ship tires directly to you and address any warranty issues you may have. Sending a DM your way.
 
+1 for the Michellin Defenders. Good all around tires. I have had them on multiple trucks over the years. They've consistently gotten 80,000+ miles on a set when rotated every 6k.

Currently have them on my 2019 Canyon and my 2022 Silverado. Quiet. Smooth. Comfortable.
 
+1 for the Michellin Defenders. Good all around tires. I have had them on multiple trucks over the years. They've consistently gotten 80,000+ miles on a set when rotated every 6k.

Currently have them on my 2019 Canyon and my 2022 Silverado. Quiet. Smooth. Comfortable.
Thanks for the report. My 2020 Silverado came with "upgraded" tires that are a little more aggressive than the basic tires. Not impressed with them, slip a little too easily and don't seem to be wearing as well as the OEM on my Canyon or the Defenders I put on the Canyon. I don't remember the brand, but I was contemplating the Defenders when I replace - which is probably 20K miles and 15 months from now.

I have been pleased with Discount Tire. I might have been able to work a sweeter deal with Costco on the Defenders, but Discount Tire has been great about plugging some holes in my tires, both purchased there and the OEM. It probably doesn't save me much, I end up tipping the techs as much as I would pay most places for a repair, but they seem to be able to work me in and get me taken care of swiftly.

I tried Sam's Club once for tires, but getting anything done after the purchase was a bear, they were always too busy to accommodate me. Not sure if Costco would have the same issue or not.
 
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It makes for an interesting conversation; We have a Telluride. The OE tires are Pirelli Scorpion ASs and I’m not a fan. While they don’t ride that poorly, they slip a little more than I like. I would promote the tire as a good option, but I do plan to swap them at the same time as the Canyon with the CrossClimate 2’s I mentioned above.
The Ford came with the scorpion ATR, very similar to the BFG listed above. That ATR is decent... my biggest gripe with it is they run very small for their size... the 275 section width is narrow for a 275 and especially narrow when compared to other similar tires of the same size.
 
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Just for fun I’ll throw in that Mickey Thompson Baja Boss tires are excellent. USA MADE TOO
 
Thanks for the report. My 2020 Silverado came with "upgraded" tires that are a little more aggressive than the basic tires. Not impressed with them, slip a little too easily and don't seem to be wearing as well as the OEM on my Canyon or the Defenders I put on the Canyon. I don't remember the brand, but I was contemplating the Defenders when I replace - which is probably 20K miles and 15 months from now.

I have been pleased with Discount Tire. I might have been able to work a sweeter deal with Costco on the Defenders, but Discount Tire has been great about plugging some holes in my tires, both purchased there and the OEM. It probably doesn't save me much, I end up tipping the techs as much as I would pay most places for a repair, but they seem to be able to work me in and get me taken care of swiftly.

I tried Sam's Club once for tires, but getting anything done after the purchase was a bear, they were always too busy to accommodate me. Not sure if Costco would have the same issue or not.
Thank you for the kind words! We do appreciate your patronage.
 
LTX FTW.
I put them on after the stock goodyears got noisy, followed by Cooper Discoverers - THE hardest noisiest tire ever that cups horribly, and finally the Michelins. Frankly, I have never experienced a more drastic change in ride quality and quietness with a tire change, EVER. Absolutely astounding.
Unless you need a snow tire, just get the LTX's. You will be thrilled. I wish I would have gotten them a long time ago. We got back from a 3K mile trip with the coopers and I was just disgusted - considered selling the truck. Thought I would drop for tires first - unbelievable.

Discount Tires does all my vehicles - just fantastic.
 
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LTX FTW.
I put them on after the stock goodyears got noisy, followed by Cooper Discoverers - THE hardest noisiest tire ever that cups horribly, and finally the Michelins. Frankly, I have never experienced a more drastic change in ride quality and quietness with a tire change, EVER. Absolutely astounding.
Unless you need a snow tire, just get the LTX's. You will be thrilled. I wish I would have gotten them a long time ago. We got back from a 3K mile trip with the coopers and I was just disgusted - considered selling the truck. Thought I would drop for tires first - unbelievable.

Discount Tires does all my vehicles - just fantastic.
Thanks for the positive review!
 
LTX FTW.
I put them on after the stock goodyears got noisy, followed by Cooper Discoverers - THE hardest noisiest tire ever that cups horribly, and finally the Michelins. Frankly, I have never experienced a more drastic change in ride quality and quietness with a tire change, EVER. Absolutely astounding.
Unless you need a snow tire, just get the LTX's. You will be thrilled. I wish I would have gotten them a long time ago. We got back from a 3K mile trip with the coopers and I was just disgusted - considered selling the truck. Thought I would drop for tires first - unbelievable.

Discount Tires does all my vehicles - just fantastic.
Thank you for your patronage. I'm happy that the LTX was the game changer that you were looking for!
 
Michelin CrossClimate 2
UPDATE: Oops -- I just saw your decision. I didn't read page #2 before replying. Anyways ... I'm still curious if the CrossClimate2's would need a different wheel.
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What did you end up going with?

Michelin's website says the CrossClimate2 doesn't fit the stock 255/65R17. Looks like it maxes out at 245 width. So do you run non-stock wheels?
 
UPDATE: Oops -- I just saw your decision. I didn't read page #2 before replying. Anyways ... I'm still curious if the CrossClimate2's would need a different wheel.
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What did you end up going with?

Michelin's website says the CrossClimate2 doesn't fit the stock 255/65R17. Looks like it maxes out at 245 width. So do you run non-stock wheels?
I ran a set of Cooper Discoverer/Adventurer tires in 245-70-17 and they worked great. Just FYI.
Tire manufacturers specify the rim-width range for any given tire size - TireRack is an easy place to find specs on a variety of brands, or just go directly to the manufacturers website.

It looks like the CrossClimate2 is available in 245/65-17, not 70 series. The problem is diameter - this is a smaller tire than stock, just over a half inch smaller. Rim width spec is 7 to 8.5", so they'll fit the stock wheels.

The stock tire size rating is a 110T - the CC2 is 107H - so it doesn't have the same carrying capacity.

The Michelin LTX is an amazing tire. If you need a more aggressive tread there are plenty of other options.
 
It looks like the CrossClimate2 is available in 245/65-17, not 70 series. The problem is diameter - this is a smaller tire than stock, just over a half inch smaller.
Yea, that's that largest size for the CrossClimate2 that I found, even on TireRack's website.

Good to know that it can still work. I was leaning on the CrossClimate2 but don't want to loose any load capacity, so may go with Defender LTX to keep the stock 110 load index.

It's crazy how good testers are saying these new tire compounds work for braking nowadays.
 
Really like our Michelin Defenders (made in USA by the way). About 25,000 miles so far and lots of tread left. Surprised me how well they work in moderate muddy conditions. We had a heavy thunderstorm while camped last week and an of camber turn around followed by a slight climb. At 11,000 lbs GCW no side slip or wheelspin.
 
The problem with a 'truck tire' is they are heavy - unsprung weight and rolling weight and resistance - and the tread surface is more rigid so they ride much harder. You feel every crack in the road. They are thicker and tougher, so if you rock-crawl your truck there's a lot of advantage in that regard.

The Coopers I had were one of the top rated tires for an all-terrain. Over 30K miles or so they really started to cup badly, making them really noisy - like mudders. They worked well enough, but I did not realize how hard and noisy they were till I put the Michelins on. Of all the cars I've owned, some fifty of them over fifty years, I have never experienced a transformation in ride quality like these tires. I had just completed a 3K mile trip and kicked myself for not getting them before the trip - would have been SO much more enjoyable. Oh well.

The biggest downside is cost. But then, I think BFG All Terrains are still more - and they ride like shiate. LOL And if you go up in size with stock gearing it really bogs the truck. Having the 4:10 gears with the I4 drivetrain really works to advantage over the V6 taller gears. The only place the V6 walks away is over 60mph, or towing. The bigger displacement and higher HP really comes into play then.
 
... They worked well enough, but I did not realize how hard and noisy they were till I put the Michelins on. Of all the cars I've owned, some fifty of them over fifty years, I have never experienced a transformation in ride quality like these tires. I had just completed a 3K mile trip and kicked myself for not getting them before the trip - would have been SO much more enjoyable. Oh well.
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I replaced my OEM Wranglers on my Canyon with the Michelin LTX Defenders at 70K because the wet traction on the Wranglers was so lousy. The Michelin tires were a significant improvement in ride quality and wet traction. Not sure noise was a factor.

The confidence the Michelin tires gave me over the Wranglers, I could have kicked myself as well.

I figure another 10K on my Silverado and I will be making the move on it to Michelin tires. On my Canyon, I think it hurt my gas mileage slightly. On the Silverado with the tires that came from the factory, I think the switch Michelins will not impact my gas mileage.
 
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