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Here is a little write up of some emissions issues I had recently, had trouble researching these codes and a fix so hopefully this helps someone out there.

2017 Chevrolet Colorado Duramax w/ ~55k miles, everything OEM.

Check Engine light illuminates, scan shows P20EE "SCR NOx Catalyst Efficiency Below Threshold Bank 1". ~50 miles later another code is present, P11D5 "NOx Sensor 2 Exceeded Minimum Learning Limit". Only other strange symptoms are fuel economy has gone down, and latest regen dropped ~100 miles between regens, down to 330 miles between regens.

Original purchasing dealership informally advises to remove MAP sensor & clean. FB group advises to replace NOx sensors. Didn't do either but I will clean MAP sensor when I am able to, and I now have a spare #2 NOx sensor.

Brought truck to local dealer and advised them of the P20EE & P11D5 code. They called me and advised that the DEF pump was receiving electricity, but not working properly and failed the DEF quantity test. They said the DEF pump and DEF module would need to be replaced.

1. DEF Pump (84526247) Rock Auto Price $443.79, Chevrolet List Price $1,077.99
2. DEF Module (39153712) Rock Auto Price $131.79, Chevrolet List Price $348.99

The dealer replaced these two parts and advised that they confirmed the two codes (P11D5/P20EE), that they tested the reductant pump not building enough pressure for the system to actuate the reductant injector and make the converter hot, causing code P20EE, and that they replaced the reductant pump and controller. They also advised that they added 2 Gallons of DEF. Chevrolet's list price for DEF is $12.95 a gallon, a lot more than what I usually pay.

I am away for work and unfortunately could not perform the repair myself. The Chevrolet parts listing price is excessive and I was able to negotiate with the dealer a somewhat more reasonable price, which was appreciated. I wish that they didn't add any more DEF. I had my tank only 1/2 full on purpose. It's the winter where I live currently and it will be getting below 12F at night, I didn't want my DEF to freeze and then expand with a full tank.

Emissions warranty didn't cover any of the repairs. From my research my State tags along with the California emissions warranty and the products that broke on my truck are only warrantied for 5 years or 50k miles, so I had to pay the $1,700+ repair bill on my own.

Emissions is the worst part about this truck. GM's parts listing price was so excessive on these emissions components that it has really turned me off as a Chevrolet customer.
 
It doesn't really matter what manufacturer's dealer you use, the cost for diesel emissions system repairs are expensive. It's more of a, can you find a dealer with a tech that's talented enough to resolve your problems and so far I think you won that battle.
 
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UPDATE: P20EE is back pending again after 50 miles of driving from the dealer. Back to the drawing board, have an appointment in a week with the dealer. We will see if it was a simple fix like NOx Sensor 2, and that the DEF pump and module replacement was a waste.
 
The intermittent P20EE with my wife's EcoDiesel was due to a failing NOx sensor, hopefully that ends up being your fix as well. Could also be a plugged DEF injector.

I'd hope the dealer would know to test/check these as part of their diagnosis.

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The intermittent P20EE with my wife's EcoDiesel was due to a failing NOx sensor, hopefully that ends up being your fix as well. Could also be a plugged DEF injector.

I'd hope the dealer would know to test/check these as part of their diagnosis.

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Thanks, I have a feeling the dealer didn't check these parts. Did they change both NOx sensors on your wife's truck?
 
Thanks, I have a feeling the dealer didn't check these parts. Did they change both NOx sensors on your wife's truck?
No, I think they just replaced #2 (post-SCR) since the computer was sensing not enough change to NOx levels.

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Sounds like the dealer is guessing and throwing parts at the problem. Gets expensive for you by doing that.
 
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No, I think they just replaced #2 (post-SCR) since the computer was sensing not enough change to NOx levels.

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Sounds like the dealer is guessing and throwing parts at the problem. Gets expensive for you by doing that.
Thanks guys, I purchased NOx Sensor #2 myself from Rock Auto and I am going to request that the dealer do the swap free of labor charges because of their expensive misdiagnosis. I would do the parts swap myself but I am far away from home unfortunately.
 
Let us know how it goes with the dealer.
 
UPDATE: P20EE is back pending again after 50 miles of driving from the dealer. Back to the drawing board, have an appointment in a week with the dealer. We will see if it was a simple fix like NOx Sensor 2, and that the DEF pump and module replacement was a waste.
despite the code being somewhat generic the list of possibilities is rather short

so heres the info for P20EE

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Glad you were able to get it sorted out. Did you get the count down to limited speed too or just a CEL with those codes?
 
Interesting. It sounds like we both had basically the same problem but your sensor threw a code that didn’t trigger the countdown while mine did. Makes me wonder which codes will trigger the countdown and which don’t.
 
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