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2 cubic yards
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2 cubic yards of sand weighs between 5,200 – 6,400 pounds and the trailer weighs about 1500ibs? so maybe 6,500-8,000ibs total?

 

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This could be maxing out the towing capacity? Interesting to see these trailer loads. To get a feel of what 7,700 lbs actually looks like

most vehicles can "tow" almost any weight, as in they can move it, but the problem comes in when you want to "stop" the thing you are towing. Going down hill with an item that weighs more than the towing truck, these 3rd gen GM midsized twins weigh about 6300ibs max?, so stopping something that weighs more than max tow rating is were the problems come in, also the suspension should handle above max so even at max tow rating it is not down all the way.

 

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I bet the trailer only weighs about 800 pounds at most. I can pretty easily pick up the tongue. In terms of the dirt, it was pretty dry. So maybe only 2k pounds? It definitely didn't feel like I was towing above 4k.

even if the sand was super dry that still puts it at least at 5000ibs and the trailer maybe 500ibs so 5,500ibs at the very least. It didn't feel like you were towing above 4K ibs because the new twins are a beast with the low end torque 😁👌

 

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Oh that’s a great explanation.
I’ve recently been wondering about towing capacities in the case of the 2023 canyon vs the old 2006 sierra I had.
the 4 cylinder has more torque and Hp than the old V8, but still the Sierra was able to tow more.
is that solely due to the weight of the vehicle and suspension?

yep and brakes

 

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5 was a happy # with both of those trailers I had on. 6 was too much.

i'm new to towing with trailer brakes. To set your trailer brakes system hook up your trailer and put your truck in drive and let go off the brake, then slowly increase the trailer brake setting until the truck and trailer come to a complete stop? You should do this in a parking lot or driveway. Thanks in advance

 

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For ChevyJoeColorado above.

2023 Chevy Colorado towing capacity without trailering package
The 2023 Chevy Colorado Conventional tow rating across all the models and drivetrain lineup is 3,500 lbs. Check out the table below for more details on conventional tow ratings across the lineup.

Engine	Axle Ratio	GCWR (lbs.)	Maximum Trailer Weight (lbs.)
2.7L I4 Turbo	3.42	8,700	3,500
2.7L I4 Turbo Plus	3.42	9,100	3,500

2023 Chevy Colorado towing capacity with the trailering package
The Chevrolet Colorado needs to be equipped with the Heavy Duty Trailering Package for a maximum towing capacity of 7,700 pounds. This package includes a trailer hitch and a 7-pin connector; includes an integrated trailer brake controller. Check out the table below to see how the lineup performs in max towing when equipped with the available trailer towing Package.

Trim	Drive Type	Axle Ratio	GCWR (lbs.)	Maximum Trailer Weight (lbs.)
WT	2WD/4×4	3.42	13,250	7,700
LT	2WD/4×4	3.42	13,250	7,700
Trail Boss	4×4	3.42	13,250	7,700
Z71	4×4	3.42	13,250	7,700
ZR2	4×4	3.42	11,607	6,000

This is what I found. It seems to be based on the engine and whether you have the G80 rear.

2023 Chevy Colorado towing capacity

2023 Chevy Colorado towing capacity. The 2023 Chevrolet trims WT, LT, Trail Boss, Z71 and ZR2 towing capacity.

thecartowing.com

also i remember seeing in an official table/column it also stated that the ZR2 with the Dessert Boss package with the Edition 1 package could tow up to 5,500ibs.

 

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Just the Supra

Trailer is a 18ft 1900lb Wood Deck and the car is in the ballpark of 3200lb-3400lb

Typically have a full set of tires strapped down on the front of the trailer which is roughly an additional 100lb and the truck gets loaded with additional fuel, tools, jack, camping supplies etc. etc.

Using a CURT 45900 Hitch with adjustable drop

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so roughly 2,000ibs for trailer, 3,400ibs for car, 100ibs for tires, 800ibs for tools, and 200ibs for 1 passenger/driver? Tongue weight goes toward payload and is roughly 10% of total towing load so tongue weight is about 550ibs. So roughly about 5,500ibs total towing and 1,550ibs for payload?

How many mpg on the highway with cruise control set at what speed are you getting?

 

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I prefer this Method as it tells you how the trailer brakes are working without the truck brakes:

One common method for adjusting the gain is to use the manual override button on your trailer brake controller.

This button allows you to apply the trailer brakes independently of the towing vehicle’s brakes, which is useful for testing the effectiveness of the electric brakes.

To use this method, start by setting the gain to the middle position. Then, tow your trailer on a level, dry, paved road at approximately 20 mph. While driving, activate the manual override button on the brake controller to apply the trailer brakes.

If the trailer brakes don’t provide enough stopping power, increase the gain. If the trailer brakes lock up, decrease the gain. Repeat this process until you find the optimal gain setting.

thanks I have only towed a U-Haul motorcycle trailer and I even though it has a hook up for the lights I don't believe it had any brakes, I think there is a trailer weight maximum before you have to have trailer brakes but I think these aluminum 8'x5' motorcycle trailers don't require them, so I don't believe I have ever towed a trailer with trailer brakes but I want to get a 8'x21' enclosed tandem axle trailer, about 3,500ibs unloaded and about 5,500ibs loaded, and make it a custom toy hauler to tow with my 21' Canyon and hopefully in the future a Colorado Trail Boss and it would have trailer brakes so I want to get the procedure of how to set the trailer brakes. Thanks for the info.

 

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since the same hp and the 40 more tq is from a software flash and adds no weight I can't see how the towing would go down. So yeah probably a typo on the site.

 

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I get 40 mpg @ 90 mph with my 2023 Canyon. Got you beat!!!

he has a 4 cylinder diesel so maybe he is getting 33mpgs at 85mph. I'm not sure, I heard diesels can get better mpg than gas motors how much not sure. But since the diesel is more than gas and the maintenance is more expensive, without doing the math I figure they even out.

 

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I traded in my 22’ Sierra 1500 AT4 Duramax and I’m pretty happy with the Canyon. So far I’ve added a GMC bedcover, Husky Floormats, DeeZee bedmat, illuminated front emblem, hyper dipped all the other emblems, and 5% tint on the rear windows. View attachment 457254
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Dang man those black emblems look great on the white truck

 

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Thanks a lot. This is definitely my favorite truck I’ve ever owned.

man that means a lot for the Canyon AT4 since you owned a 22’ Sierra 1500 AT4 Duramax and you like the Canyon AT4 more. I test drove a Canyon AT4 and with leather and man it did feel good to drive, even coming from my 21' Canyon crew cab, short bed V6

 

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2023 Trail Boss with a 2023 Keystone Hideout 18BH

Dry weight 4,500 but probably 5,000ish as you see it in the picture.

Squats a bit, but not bad. Pulled surprisingly well, but I wouldn’t go much bigger personally with my trailer hauling skill level.

At first I thought the shifting and power were really struggling, then I recalled there was a tow mode 🤦🏻‍♂️. That obviously helped a lot. After that, power was no issue whatsoever and braking was surprisingly responsive with the trailer brake option. Odd anecdote, it almost seemed to learn my habits and how and when to shift the more I drove it. Maybe just my imagination, or maybe really clever programming.

The only reason I wouldn’t go much bigger was the tendency to sway just a bit, and “steer the truck” at times. I opted for the anti sway hitch with the camper as well, and I’m glad I did. But it still tends to move a bit in the wind, and tends to suck in to bypassing semis.

While the tow rating is 7,700, it’s still a 4,600lb truck pulling a 5,000lb trailer that also acts as an 18ft long wind sail.

Depends on your skill level, and depends what you’re pulling, but that’s my experience as a nuby to the RV hauling world.

is it 18 feet including the hitch or 18 feet for just the cabin?

 

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18 foot box, about 21-22 ft total length.

Thanks so much guys for the info. Yeah that is the size I am looking at getting a 8.5'x18' (in the box) trailer to make into a custom toy hauler. With tandem axles. I was hoping to after I put my 750ibs Yamaha Raider S motorcycle and all the furnishings it would be 6500ibs max but hopefully 6K ibs loaded, and I was wondering how these Gen 3 twins could handle the weight and shape towing it in the mountains about 3 times a year. Please give an update on how the truck does after a few trips please. Thanks again.

 

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I agree with you, and wish it was a tandem. Definitely keeping it under 70mph at all times when towing and keeping a close eye on the tire pressure and condition. I appreciate the tip on weight distribution, great point there.

My WDH is the chain style hitch with a sway control arm that attaches to the right side, and it secures by a crank. Seems to be doing its job, though I haven’t tried pulling without it. When I say it sways, I just mean you can feel it want to pull, but the sway control seems to straighten it back out almost immediately. It doesn’t wobble or fishtail, just feel it want to. Hope that makes sense, kind of hard to explain the feel of it.

Overall, it feels safe to pull, I just wouldn’t go any bigger, especially on single axle.

B&W Continuum Weight Distribution System w/ Sway Control for 2" Hitch
Look that anti sway distribution system up in YouTube. I saw a few videos on them and they seem to be the best newest tech on the market

 

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Even with the lower rating of the ZR2, it's the same engine and trans; granted, it has bigger tires and a softer suspension. I've towed about 5k without feeling short on power. Considering TFL Truck took a max effort load up a mountain at altitude, you can easily take highway both ways maintaining 60+ mph.

I think the lower tow rating on the ZR2 is the added weight of the suspension and other add-ons take up weight on the original tow rating reducing the overall tow rating.

 

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Pics added to the other post.

It's awesome, in my opinion. I like it better than all the other after market exhaust sounds I've heard.
The sound is great, for a 4 cylinder. It does not sound like a Honda civic street racing at 3am.
Turbo whistle is a lot louder, in a good way.
Performance butt dyno can feel a slight gain in turbo response and acceleration. But its minimal.
I did it mainly for sound and wanted more turbo noise.
In cabin noise with the windows up is very minimal.
Zero drone at all speeds and normal driving. Tiny bit of drone while towing heavy.

Never got around to making an outside sound video.

When I get my Colorado Trail Boss I would love to get a Gibson dual exhaust catback system but the only problem is going to Gibson's website they don't show anything for the 3rd gen colorado/canyon? In the video you posted it says in the description that you have a Gibson Dual Sport Catback exhaust on your 23' GMC Canyon AT4, what model did you use because if I put in that info it shows that setup fitting
2021 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN 1500 5.3L
2021 GMC YUKON XL 1500 5.3L
2022 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN 1500 5.3L
2022 GMC YUKON XL 1500 5.3L
2023 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN 1500 5.3L
2023 GMC YUKON XL 1500 5.3L

So did you get one of these and just cut and weld it yourself to make it fit, or what? I agree out of the stock, Gibson, MBRP, and Magnaflow, that are currently offered on the 3rd gen twins its between the Gibson and Magnaflow for me. I like it to be just a little louder than stock, because I do ride 99% of the time with my window open. But I also want it not to hurt my ears doing 80mph on the highway towing a 6K toy hauler for 8hrs.

 

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On their website they have a "Contact Us" Page. If you haven't sent them a note already, you may consider it.

https://gibsonperformance.com/contact.html

Thats a smart idea, thats why I did that exact thing on Jan 1. Here is there response email

Thanks for contacting Gibson Performance and considering us for your exhaust needs. Currently that Cat-Back is under development, if you like I can add you to our waiting list.

I figured since there is a guy claiming in this thread to have a Gibson exhaust and I couldn't find it I thought it would be a wise thing to ask the person claiming to have it what the model was but since C-cam22 hasn't responded then I figure go to the source. C-cam22 also posted a video with the Gibson exhaust? But Gibson said they are still working on an exhaust for the Gen 3 midsized twins? Since Gibson says they don't have a catback for the gen 3 twins then maybe C-cam22 just has one of their mufflers? But he listed it on the YouTube vido as
Gibson Performance Exhaust
Dual sport catback exhaust
so either there's a misunderstanding or he is testing it for them?

 

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Towed our enclosed 6x10 utility trailer with about 4-500 lbs. Trailer is 1200 lbs empty. We towed 500 miles including hills. 11.3 mpg. No issues whatsoever with towing. Literally couldn't even feel it. Truck had plenty of power, transmission did not hunt back and forth between gears. If it downshifted, it stayed there till the top of hill. Very happy with how it towed. Including a few panic stops when people don't even look and pull right out in front of you.

Fuel economy not so much. Lol

11mpg towing with a ZR2? Not bad I read here in the forum some getting 12mpg with no towing with a ZR2 of course I also read that some get 23mpg on the highway with their ZR2 so a LARGE swing in numbers. And a guy claiming to get 28mpg on the highway with a LT so they have no reason to lie......right?🤔

 

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I recently just purchased a new 7x16 car hauler for my 87 Integra. The trailer weighs 1600 lbs. empty, and the whole trip back home with the new trailer unloaded, I was doing around 75 to 80 mph. I averaged around 19 mpg on the way home with the trailer and averaged about 22 mpg with just the truck going to Georgia to View attachment 463135
get it.

Dang that's some good mpg numbers for a 3rd gen Canyon towing and going 75-80mph. I hope to get the same when I get a Colorado Trail Boss with a full cab, full bed, and towing about 6K ibs loaded toy hauler with cruise control on 65mph in a few years