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Not a lemon, just an idler :lol:. You mentioned that it was a fleet vehicle, meaning whoever drove it before you didn't show too much love to the truck. Fleet vehicles, depending on their jobs, are usually idling for a while. A perfect example would be of police vehicles. When officers are stationed somewhere, they're usually sitting in the vehicle while it's running. Partly to escape the elements outside, and also to make it easier if they need to go into pursuit. If they see a driver breaking the law, it's easier to just throw the car into drive and go after them instead of turning the car on. That's the downside to buying old police cars / fleet vehicles, they'll always have a ton of engine hours from idling.

In reality, that truck essentially has around 130,000 miles on it because of that extra running time. Also, the fact that there is rust on a vehicle that's only about 4 years old is NOT normal. Older American vehicles were known for having frame rot down the line eventually, but not as quickly as four years.
 
Not a lemon, just an idler :lol:. You mentioned that it was a fleet vehicle, meaning whoever drove it before you didn't show too much love to the truck. Fleet vehicles, depending on their jobs, are usually idling for a while. A perfect example would be of police vehicles. When officers are stationed somewhere, they're usually sitting in the vehicle while it's running. Partly to escape the elements outside, and also to make it easier if they need to go into pursuit. If they see a driver breaking the law, it's easier to just throw the car into drive and go after them instead of turning the car on. That's the downside to buying old police cars / fleet vehicles, they'll always have a ton of engine hours from idling.

In reality, that truck essentially has around 130,000 miles on it because of that extra running time. Also, the fact that there is rust on a vehicle that's only about 4 years old is NOT normal. Older American vehicles were known for having frame rot down the line eventually, but not as quickly as four years.
I definitely agree that it's not likely a lemon, but we still don't have the full story either. It does sound like they didn't get a fair deal for what the truck actually is. They got a retail price on a wholesale truck. The rust is concerning. If the truck was from a coastal part of Texas, then it could have been exposed to sea salt in that area--and also been an unreported flood vehicle if the rust is inside the cab. However, for a fleet vehicle that would be a bit perplexing as a business would likely cash in on insurance and the title would be marred.

Considering retired police cars turned taxis regularly go to 300k+ miles, I wouldn't say that the excessive hours are a big issue. The status quo mileage reference is really just a ballpark for the vehicle condition as a whole. Transmissions, differentials, wheel bearings, driveshafts, bushings, etc won't have all the wear you'd expect from engine hours vs. mileage. Often, regularly maintained engines with 150k on them will show minimal wear when torn down.
 
I definitely agree that it's not likely a lemon, but we still don't have the full story either. It does sound like they didn't get a fair deal for what the truck actually is. They got a retail price on a wholesale truck. The rust is concerning. If the truck was from a coastal part of Texas, then it could have been exposed to sea salt in that area--and also been an unreported flood vehicle if the rust is inside the cab. However, for a fleet vehicle that would be a bit perplexing as a business would likely cash in on insurance and the title would be marred.

Considering retired police cars turned taxis regularly go to 300k+ miles, I wouldn't say that the excessive hours are a big issue. The status quo mileage reference is really just a ballpark for the vehicle condition as a whole. Transmissions, differentials, wheel bearings, driveshafts, bushings, etc won't have all the wear you'd expect from engine hours vs. mileage. Often, regularly maintained engines with 150k on them will show minimal wear when torn down.

Good points. As long as good vehicle maintenance is observed, high engine hours and idling is not usually a problem. Lack of oil changes and other maintenance is what kills an car and engine. ::chevy::
 
I second drax with quite possible oilfield truck, probably idling mostly for AC needs. fleet+texas+miles vs hours certainly points there or somewhere similar. the rust though, kind of a wild card as to where that came from since texas is mostly dry.
 
Obviously, regardless of where it was, those are all legit issues, that sucks.

I dont know what the gas does, but my duramax throws up a notice in the dic when you idle too long, asks you to turn it off. Forget the actual verbage. New diesels dont like to idle like old ones do.
 
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