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Thoughts on Aftermarket/Offroad Lights?

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#1 ·
So I’ve been wheeling in the dark with some buddies and driving a lot of backcountry miles at night over the last few weeks. During all the different occasions and different vehicles, I have been observing and playing around with different combinations of lights.

My personal takeaway is that I don’t understand the obsession with all these crazy offroad light setups.

My reason for this thinking: Too much light and your eyes become less dilated, decreasing your night vision. This isn’t a huge issue until you look anywhere outside of your beam pattern. For example, looking down out of your side window to assess a switchback. To say it even more dramatically: the more light you have upfront, the less aware you are of your surroundings.

Now there is obviously a balance as you want enough light (no duh). But good headlights w/ brights and something for width like ditch lights or fog replacements achieves amazing coverage but without negating your night vision.

I will throw in the caveat that I know those running high speed need the long distance throw of big lighting setups. But in general, there are very few people doing high speed desert runs…a whole let less than the amount of people with $3k+ worth of lights on the front of their vehicle

So what am I missing? Why do so many feel that a nuclear power plant worth of LED lights is helpful for an overlanding rig or backcountry cruiser? Is the sacrifice in situational visibility worth the gain in overall brightness?
 
#4 ·
I watch a few off road recovery shows etc and wonder which one of you called Matt recently?

On the lights, I see these guys use a ton of light for the YT vids etc and I think that's too much. To get a good balance, wouldn't some dimmable led's be the way to go? When you break and need a ton of light you go 100% and when you are trying to preserve night vision and have some light you turn them down?

Last night a guy approaches me and tells me how great my wheels are etc. Continues on to say he bought the new Taco with 17's and wishes he had the 20's. Nice guy and a good chat about loading into a taller bed vs more ground clearance. And the obvious cost of 17's vs 20's.
 
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#5 ·
I always felt I'd want foreground limiters on lights same as with projectors or running fogs at speed... if you need to see it right in front of you, you're not going very fast. I'd rather have the immediate 20-30 feet in front of the vehicle poorly lit and throw more light down range than the other way around.

I think the people with all those lights are the same people who night drive with their instrument cluster lighting turned all the way up at night. They don't know or care to know any better because they think it helps.
 
#6 ·
I understand the night blindness, I have a set of pod lights with "side=shooters" and on highway at night I run them more then the high beams. Lets me see towards the ditches/fields in front for deer.
I am in the middle of now where and there is constant traffice even at 3am, so hard to keep the hi beams on for any extended time.
Yes I know you can run hi-beams on divided highways like the interstate and see a lot of people doing that let alone light bars, but so annoying. Ditch lights aimed down and out do not annoy others as much.
 
#7 ·
I got off the aux light craze several years back, but given I spend more time within populated areas that are well lit, I don't need them. The only lights I've added in the past 15 years were reverse lights and maybe fog lights if I want more of the front spread. I haven't used the lightbar on my sport bar except to test them.
If I still had my country place up north in the back roads, maybe I would
 
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Sadly these clowns use them all the time...to blind oncoming traffic... :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
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My personal takeaway is that I don’t understand the obsession with all these crazy offroad light setups.
But....how are they supposed to Mall-Crawl without a zillion candlepower worth of rack lights, Yo?🤣
 
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I assume that 99% of places people are using off-road lights is on roads/hwys with no streetlights...at least I would hope lol

What benefits do you find from having that much light? Do you find the long-distance lighting is worth the loss of ability to see around you? Honest questions.
 
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I replaced my OEM fog lights with DD SS3 Pro amber pods, the reason is simple. I don't live in the city and do live where it snows, so the advantages of amber fogs are 2-fold; I can see better in fog and snow and the fog lights throw more light to the sides so that I can see wildlife that might dart in front of me. The OEM fogs were pretty useless in all regards. Here's a comparison of lows vs lows + SS3 Pro amber fogs. This was just after I installed the pods and they were adjusted slightly high here but you can see how much more light coverage there is to the sides, this makes a huge improvement when driving on country roads or highways:

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I replaced my OEM fog lights with DD SS3 Pro amber pods, the reason is simple. I don't live in the city and do live where it snows, so the advantages of amber fogs are 2-fold; I can see better in fog and snow and the fog lights throw more light to the sides so that I can see wildlife that might dart in front of me. The OEM fogs were pretty useless in all regards. Here's a comparison of lows vs lows + SS3 Pro amber fogs. This was just after I installed the pods and they were adjusted slightly high here but you can see how much more light coverage there is to the sides, this makes a huge improvement when driving on country roads or highways:

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Absolutely agree with this. It's how I have my truck set up too. The width and color is hugely beneficial to supplement headlights.

Now double/triple your lighting output...do you think you would still see a proportionate increase in visibility and usability?
 
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You have to understand, people don't even use factory fog lights appropriately. Hint; the purpose of the light is in its name.

Getting people to use aftermarket auxiliary lights correctly is akin to trying to explain to people why LEDs don't go in halogen reflector head lamps.

You might as well be talking in ape and using smoke signals with a blanket over a fire.
 
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You have to understand, people don't even use factory fog lights appropriately. Hint; the purpose of the light is in its name.

Getting people to use aftermarket auxiliary lights correctly is akin to trying to explain to people why LEDs don't go in halogen reflector head lamps.

You might as well be talking in ape and using smoke signals with a blanket over a fire.
We don't get much fog here, but we DO get plenty of critters, especially around the 9,300' pass I have to go over at night to go home. So, I like having the fog lights to give me a little more peripheral light/vision.
 
#23 ·
At least we've moved away from people throwing vibrant blue HIDs in reflectors and blinding everything and anything around. Leds suck but holy crap HIDs were worse.
 
#28 ·
"do you even overland, bro?" It's definitely the over-accessorizing of the overland scene. Like you mention, majority of people don't need that much lighting, let alone most of their expensive kit. Some people just like to peacock, and have the money to do so. It keeps the industry moving, so I can't complain.

I have a modest quantity but highly effective amount of lighting. Squadron Pro fogs in amber, and a 30" Onx6 bar. It's overkill for most use and sometime I wish I just got the lower powered S8 bar, but when I'm doing 60+ on a remote back country road in the middle of the night, I'm glad I have it. This was a pitch black night:

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#33 ·
Some quality amber fogs are a big improvment. A spot or flood combo can be helpful driving quickly at night down gravel roads, and make snow wheeling at night even mote spectacular. A handful of white rock lights under the vehicle are usefull for me, because I rock crawl at night.
Overall though, I agree with the OP. No one needs a huge light bar, along with pods everywhere. It all just hurts gas mileage and adds weight.
People are vain and they like attention, thats the bottom line for many modifications these days.
 
#34 ·
I've got two under the rear bumper for lighting up trailers on ramps at night. Make for really good reverse lights in the woods too.
 
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#37 ·
I finally pulled the trigger on my project, I wanted the Hilux at the end of Back To The Future, but I will settle for this version.
 

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Nice Done
That is a Whole Lot of Lights
 
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I have DD fog light bars on my bull bar and they are quite affective during bad weather on my commute to work. I don't need them often but nice to have when I need them. The ones on my sport bar are hardly used, I just like the look. These other two pics are not typical but not unusual for a winter commute.
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