Ask them what they do at. 60000 interval?

 

That's the frustrating part. I've asked that very question and the dealership response is the basic GM 60,000 recommended service. When I check the owners manual it says: check oil levels, change engine oil and filter , if needed rotate tires. Replace Wiper Blades. Yet the dealership is quoting a price of 425.00 for this service

 

It’s a pure profit item for dealers. If you’ve done all the work in the owners manual just document it with receipts and tell the dealership to have a nice day.

only question I have is why are you replacing the brake fluid?

 

Truck is now going on 4 years old. My dad would flush & replace the brake fluid about every 4-5 years on the cars we used to have. He said it was good preventive maintenance and that over time condensation would develop in the old fluid. Don't know if that's true or not, just a car maintenance habit I picked up from him.

 

It is good practice to do the brake fluid every 5 years (for DOT 3 fluid, DOT 4 is actually supposed to be every 3) - your father is right, it builds up moisture over time and degrades. Compare the new stuff vs what you collect out of the bleeder, and it's a pretty obvious difference.

Most people ignore it (heck half of brake shops don't even bleed the brakes when they do a pad slap) but tip of the cap for doing it.

 

Yes they will try to upsell you stuff
GM Recommendation
From page 316 of the 2021 GMC Canyon Owners Manual:
Site Maintenance

 

I wouldn't say it's a "money grab", it's the dealer doing their due diligence that the service is needed because they don't know that you've already done it. The majority of people don't properly maintain their vehicles. They also know this may be the last time they see the vehicle while it is under warranty and may find work they can do.

 

Two schedules. Normal and severe. What is considered severe. Before it used to be if you use a vehicle as a taxi , that is severe.

 

What conditions can be considered “severe?”
If you regularly drive in these conditions, your vehicle is being driven in what can be considered severe conditions. Regularly driving in stop-and-go traffic is hard on your vehicle, as well as driving in the extreme heat or cold. Driving with a fully loaded car or towing a trailer or boat can also cause wear on your vehicle. Frequent and/or short commutes like driving to your workplace everyday can be considered severe, and driving in mountains or hills can also fall under this category. Dusty, muddy, graveled or salted roads also cause wear and tear.
Do You Know if You’re Driving in Severe Conditions? - Apple Chevy Blog

Severe Duty Explained
Broadly speaking, automakers define severe duty as operating conditions that regularly put an unusually high amount of strain on a vehicle. GMC cites driving primarily in dense, low-speed urban traffic in hot weather, routinely driving through hilly or mountainous terrain, and regularly towing a trailer as examples of severe duty. Vehicles often driven at high speeds or used for commercial purposes, such as patrol cars, taxis, and delivery trucks, also experience severe duty conditions.

Vehicles primarily used for short trips or in dusty conditions are also subjected to severe conditions
What Counts as Severe Duty Service for a Car? | Capital One Auto Navigator

The wording and mileage ranges will vary slightly from one automaker to the next, but in general, these are the criteria for what constitutes “normal” driving conditions:

• Vehicle is driven approximately 12,000 to 15,000 miles per year
• Vehicle is used for an even blend of local and highway driving
• Minimal hills – It’s assumed that the vehicle will be driven on mostly flat or near-flat roads.
• Vehicle is primarily driven in a mild climate with average weather patterns

As you can see, it’s a fairly short list and the conditions probably don’t sound realistic to most reading this.

Everything else is considered “severe”, but for the sake of this discussion, here are the most common “severe” driving situations:

• Vehicle is frequently idled for long periods
• Vehicle is subjected to stop-and-go driving – whether in the city or highway traffic
• Vehicle is driven long distances on the highway in hot temperatures
• Vehicle is used for long-distance trips at speeds that don’t go over 50mph
• Vehicle is frequently started in freezing temperatures
• Vehicle is frequently used for short trips in any temperature, including normal
• Vehicle is driven over rough terrain that includes steep hills or mountains
• Driving on any road that isn’t clean pavement (dusty, dirty, muddy, salted, or gravel roads)
• Vehicle is used for any kind of towing
• Any trip that adds excessive weight to the vehicle through the use of roof rack or car-top carrier

Normal vs Severe Driving Impacts Car Maintenance

 

Lately most of my driving is highway driving. I drive an hour each way 2-3 times a week to watch my grandson. I use the vehicle only about 5-10% off road while up north in Michigan. As far as service, I prefer to take the preventive approach and stay on top of routine maintenance. Thanks all for the responses. It is greatly appreciated. This forum is a wonderful tool. The knowledge gained from the contributors is so valuable. Thank You one and all.

 

I’ll be glad to do the 60,000 mile maintenance for $225😎😎😎😎

 

When I brought my 2020 LTCC in for an oil change at @89K, the service advisor tried to upsell me on various things like engine flush, radiator flush, transmission and differential flush and fill, all with hefty $$. The only one that I agreed to was the trans flush and fill @$225). The difference in smoothness was noticeable. I figured that the radiator flush was somewhat done when I had my thermostat replaced a few thousand miles ago. I may or may not have the brakes flushed, since I am getting less able to crawl around on the ground ( plus, their machine does it more thoroughly. )

 

Anyone notice that under the Normal Maintenance Schedule there's no mention at all about changing the transmission fluid?

 

Vehicle Manufactures like to say that Transmission Fluid will last the Lifetime of the Vehicle
If you don't Flush it every 50K or Change it every 25K....
It will last the lifetime of the Transmission... But that will be a much shortened time frame

 

Considering the fact that every mechanical device shears material while 'breaking in' ( much like rebuilt engines) I feel that flushing said mechanical assemblies at least once during their service life helps them last longer, since the debris of intermeshing gears will (hopefully be ejected in the flush, and not be recycled in the assembly to add to accelerated wear.).

 

Only time I am at a dealer is to purchase a car and for recall/TSB fixes for this reason. $425 to change the oil, rotate the tires and change the wipers...Can do that in an hour at home for less than $100. Dealers just trying to make more and more money off the already steep pricing of vehicles. It's not even convenient to get the oil changed at the dealer anymore. You end up spending 2 hours or more there. No one has time for that. You can buy the wipers from Orielly Auto Parts and they'll put them on for free haha