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Heavier Tires Effect on Acceleration (defacto fuel economy)

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#1 · (Edited)
Edited 29 DEC 20 for clarification - cannot attach the Excel sheet calculations

Being an engineer, I had to crunch the numbers for the negative effect on installing heavier tires has on vehicle acceleration. If you are considering upgrading your tires to something larger / heavier, it will have an effect on vehicle performance and decrease your fuel economy (assuming no retunes, re-gearing your differential, etc.).

In my case I compared the stock Duratrac tires that came with my 2018 Midnight edition Z71 to a larger LT tire. The calculation baseline is the constant torque at the rear axle required on the stock truck to accelerate it from 0 to 60 mph in 8 seconds. Then with the assumption of all else being equal (same constant rear axle torque), the larger and heavier 285/70/R17 tires results in a ~10% decrease to only accelerating to a speed of 55mph at the end of 8 seconds.

265/65/R17 Duratracs are 44 lbs each
285/70/R17 Tires at 55 lbs each (similar to a Toyo Open Country A/T III, LT load range C)

The issue here is the fact that while the weight per tire increases by 25%, the rotational inertia increases by 41.4% and more of the engine torque has to be used to accelerate the rotational velocity of the wheels. Further, for the same rear axle torque applied the larger diameter tire will decrease the resultant force at the tire contact patch with the road (longer lever arm). Also of note is that the calculations correlate to the rule of thumb that each extra pound of rotational weight is equivalent to 10 pounds of sprung weight (payload).

Thus, more energy / fuel is required to rotationally accelerate the heavier tires. Re-gearing your differentials will help (if you're willing to pay the $$$). This mpg loss will largely impact city type driving while constant speed highway driving is less affected. Other aerodynamic issues due to lifting the vehicle with larger / wider tires affect highway fuel economy greater.

If you're looking to get bigger tires, do your homework and figure out what you're willing to sacrifice before spending all that money. In my case since my truck is a daily driver doing largely city type conditions with occasional highway trips, my goal is to ultimately get the largest, lightest, yet toughest tire I can. Example, the BF Goodrich AT TA KO2 LT 285/70/R17 load range C are only 50.3 lbs. each.

References:
If you really want to understand the physics behind the phenomena here, look up rotational moment of inertia:
 
#2 ·
As a drag racer since the 60s, I am well aware of how the the rotational inertia is affected by bigger tires. Don't have the formulas at hand to calculate, but little more horse power and torque can over come the loss. ;)
 
#3 ·
Really happy with my after-market wheels and tires but I didn't realize the effect of the added weight at the time. Number one thing encouraging me to get a tune sometime in the future.
 
#4 ·
Let's not forget the tire tread pattern effect on rolling resistance. An M/T or even some aggressive A/Ts will reduce mileage vs the same size/weight highway tire. No real formula to calculate that other than big gaps in tread = crap mileage.
 
#6 ·
And if we are being strictly theoretical, then take into account the tread compound differences and their effect on grip, which will effect acceleration.
 
#5 ·
If MT tires or aggressive AT tires are needed it’s the price you have to pay. It’s part of playing the game.

There’s only a problem when people run larger and heavier tires for nothing other than appearance.

I think a guy should strive to run the smallest tires he can get away with but that is literally the opposite of human nature it seems.

If 35”+ tires are needed then it’s a necessary evil. If a guy runs 35”+ tires when 33” or smaller tires would work just as well he is not really concerned about performance.

“Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.”
 
#7 ·
Larger heavier tires have always been a issue. This is why many truck owners do gear changes. The gearing will bring back the acceleration often to the same degree but at the cost of mpg.

What many also forget is larger diameter and heavier wheels and tires can effect Braking even more.

It is common to see people put larger wheels and tires on a vehicle and end Up rear ending someone. Braking distance will increase and in some cases by a large degree depending what they have for brakes.

The recommendation is to upgrade brakes if you so large that you change the braking efficiency.

Guys with lowered trucks and SUV models had issues with this when they were installing the very larger wheels. It got to a point that GM even issued a warning of the effects if the wheels went beyond a specific size over stock. This is why they started to offer their dealer installed wheel packages. Some dealers even offered upgraded brakes in some cases.

Matters little how fast you are if you can’t stop.
 
#8 ·
We figured this out back in the 70's back then a standard truck came with 4:10 gears, not hp robbing 3:42 and 3:07's
if you wanted better gas mileage you put larger tires on (with in reason)

and to increase hp, ya installed a cam and headers and manifold with larger carb in the driveway on a Saturday afternoon.
 
#9 ·
Being an engineer, I had to crunch the numbers for the negative effect on installing heavier tires has on vehicle acceleration. If you are considering upgrading your tires to something larger / heavier, it will have an effect on vehicle performance and decrease your fuel economy (assuming no retunes, re-gearing your differential, etc.).
I'm not seeing an explanation for why it would affect fuel economy, at least highway fuel economy. I could see why bigger would be less aerodynamic and how a tread pattern or even sidewall difference might affect highway MPG. But if we're just talking inertia, once the wheel is spinning why would it impact MPG?
 
#10 ·
Simply it will take more fuel on acceleration to get the vehicle in motion.

Think of it this way. Larger tires are similar to being in 10th gear on a ten speed bike. To get the bike in motion takes added energy. Ow once in motion on flat ground you may get a little better mpg but once you hit a hill then it all goes away. Remember riding a ten speed up hill in 10th. Note while the transmission can help you still have a higher overall ratio and it has its effects in all gears.

We are mostly all running 3:55 ratios with the limited slip. Going to bigger tires you would want to move to a 3:73 gear like many used in the past. That was a very popular GM gear before mpg issues.

Note when GM did the Bison they did not touch the wheel and tire size. To do that would have required extra work and EPA fuel mpg test. To save cost they just tell you what you need to change.

Also if you tow the larger tires will create a ratio that is not as favorable for towing when start to move the mass.

You really don’t have to be an engineer for this as it is pretty basic stuff. Just staying at a Holiday Inn Express many help. Lol!

It also helps you win the science class contest too back in the day.....
 
#14 · (Edited)
You say “all else being equal” (except weight), but if you change to a tire with a larger diameter, all else is not equal. You will have changed the gearing.

I have heavier winter tires in the rear (LTs), but they are the same diameter as the stock tires. I wanted more weight in the rear as well as a good winter tread. I don’t care about the effect on acceleration. It’s a truck, not a racecar.
 
#22 ·
Makes me wonder if my digital fuel calculator functions correctly as I have the 21 AT4 package. I. Have not noticed a roadside radar speed trailer giving me enough time to compare my speed.
 
#36 ·
I have had my 76 cj7 for 22 years.
304, with a t150.
Have another tub and fenders ready for it(from another 76)