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I just did this. Took me about 5-10 minute. Great write-up @Dennon !!

I need some help. I cannot get the trim piece out of the dash. What kind of tool did you guys use to pry it out? Also verify exactly where I need to pry. I appreciate your help.
I used a 90 degree trim removal tool but any plastic trim removal tool should work. If you're careful, you could use a small screwdriver (flat blade), just don't scratch your dash. Just pry up from the window-side of the plate and it will pop out.
 
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I need some help. I cannot get the trim piece out of the dash. What kind of tool did you guys use to pry it out? Also verify exactly where I need to pry. I appreciate your help.
Anything plastic will work. The key is that you must pry from the front, facing away from you and towards the window. I can take a pic if need be.
 
Anything plastic will work. The key is that you must pry from the front, facing away from you and towards the window. I can take a pic if need be.
Thanks for your write up and . . . details . . .

I fiddled with this back in 2020 I believe and always find with any plastic trim there is almost always that "sweet spot" to start at.
And with a small part like that sensor. . . you made that very plain. (y)
 
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I like this, so I decided I will order a replacement sensor and modify that one and install it. That way if I don't like it I can reinstall the original. It is only like 28.00 plus if I would ruin it, I still have the original still in place. Nice write up, by the way.
 
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i did this the other day, works good. had all my windows tinted last July when i bought the ZR2. not dark tint and the windshield was tinted for UV and heat rejection here in Vegas. Head lights were always changing from day to night during the day. this fixed it , thanks for the writeup.
 
I like this, so I decided I will order a replacement sensor and modify that one and install it. That way if I don't like it I can reinstall the original. It is only like 28.00 plus if I would ruin it, I still have the original still in place. Nice write up, by the way.
Good to know it's that cheap. I did it on my original, but figured worst case I could order a replacement. Was pretty easy. Haven't tried it yet, but it can't really be much worse...
 
I'm going to do this mod. Just ordered a replacement on Amazon(less than $10.00!) to modify and install.
 
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Thank you Dennon for this write-up, I did this mod and can confirm it works as perfectly as stated. Stays in daytime mode even when overcast or shade, and switches to night when its actually needed. Instructions are very good and pretty much anyone can do it. Lighting now functions as I want it to.
Thank-you
 
Great writeup Dennon!!!! Nice little project. It took about hour and half with interruptions and no beer.:( I used a small side cut pliers to nip and tug at the white "goo" which worked very well. Less messy than I anticipated from your description, so that was also a good thing.
 
Thank you @Dennon. Another frustration eliminated.

I removed the entire blob of sticky compound from mine. It should work the same either way. The sensors are a pair of photodiodes mounted back to back on the forward upper corner of the board and appear to be wired in parallel. Removing the forward half of the compound exposes those.

The alarm blinker LED is on the upper rear of the board. Uncovering that at the same time should have no effect, maybe a slight increase in sensitivity to in cab lighting.

I don't expect any issues but will add to this post if I have any. The translucent compound was likely intended to serve a diffusing function making the sensor omnidirectional. The structure has enough supporting features that a potting compound isn't needed and most of those are opaque anyway. For the time being the sensor has higher gain and is more directional. I have photo diodes in the hobby bin and I'll tack one on looking upward if needed. Too soon to tell now.

I laid the board down on a microfiber and brushed outward with a toothbrush to remove the small amount of compound that didn't pull off. There was still a bit of S&W schmutz in this pic but it shows what is under that blob.

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Oh - Thanks again!
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If anyone is interested in what is in that sensor - this should be close if not correct. One drawing in the upfitter manual depicts one of the signals to be a square wave or maybe some type of PWM. It is not, all these signals are analog and pulled up to a reference through a resistor at the source.
Twilight in conjunction with a sensor in the mirror help control LCD mirror dimming.
Ambient provides data for automatic headlights and dash dimming.
Also on board are a cab temp sensing thermistor and the alarm flasher.

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Well, My bad, I just went out and checked once again and it does pop up out of there, I just had to find a small enough tool to get it loose. I have a replacement coming in the next day or so then I will get this done. Great write up and pics for illustrations.
 
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Well, I got the new sensor through Amazon for like 10.00 and I took the goop stuff off just over the light sensor and it only took me about 20 minutes to complete removal and reinstall. I took the original sensor and removed all the goop stuff from the sensor. I'll see how the first one works, or I can switch it out with the other.
 
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I finally got around to doing this & managed to get the goop just off of the 1 sensor on the right side, as the OP suggested, leaving the rest of the white goop on there, covering the other 2 sensors.

Put it all back together and started her up.

It was daytime & the dash/instrument/gauge lights came right on, at full brightness as they should have.

My really noticeable issues, were more in the morning as the sun was rising - my dash/instrument/gauge lights seemed to stay very dim, for far too long, in my opinion.

So, I'll have a better idea how well it works tomorrow as daylight breaks, while I'm driving in the early morning.

But, the initial indications are good.

Thanks to @Dennon for the detailed write up & pics.
 
Looking forward to your update @Gray Fox 19 .


Me? I followed this thread a while back because my '20 Z71 also thinks it's night time way too late in the morning, and way too soon in the late afternoon. Turns to night mode while it is most definitely still sunny and bright out... which is the issue addressed here.
Now, I'll be honest that, for now anyway, I've not done any mod to correct the issue. I've just been living with it, but hating it every time I can't see my screen because of it.

Here's my contribution to the thread, although I don't suspect it will help with any other solution as you'll see.
My sensor worked just fine when I got my truck.
It continued to work just fine until a certain trip to the dealership for some warranty work, specifically a radio software update.
Maybe you have read about, or are aware of the issue many have had with "ghosts in the machine" of their infotainment center; rebooting to flash screen on its own randomly, dead controls, changing volume on its own, etc.? There is a TSB (22-NA-033) about it. See this thread for reference: https://www.coloradofans.com/thread...do-lt-crashing-rebooting-with-apple-carplay.420141/page-9#nested_reply_top_post (there are several threads about the issue, but this one includes the most info IMHO.).
Anyway, as the TSB reads, a "radio software update" is the prescribed fix, and I had this update performed by a dealer at the end of May 2023.
Thankfully, the update did cure the problems I was having with the infotainment system. (knock on wood)
However, I'm sure most of you know, the "radio" is part of the brain of our trucks, and includes much more than the radio, apparently including things like this light sensor.
My sensor, or as I suspect, the programming for this sensor, has been fagazy since this update.
No, I did not go back to the dealer about it. The problems with the radio were a much bigger issue for me, and I'm just glad that is fixed. To be clear it wasn't just the radio, but every aspect of the infotainment system that was fubar; radio, all apps, climate control, navigation, bluetooth connections, etc.
They all work now.

I won't take the chance that going back to the dealer to reflash again might solve the light sensor issue, but mess up the infotainment center again. I'll leave well enough alone for now. Yeah, I'm not a dealership service department fan. In general.

Alas, I babble. My point is that I believe the sensitivity of the light sensor is programmable in some way. I don't think the core problem is the mechanics or electronics of the sensor itself, I think there is programming flashed in that sets the range, and that's what I think is wrong. If there was a procedure to adjust that, that I could have confidence in, I'd try that, but AFAIK there is not, it's all built into the one flash version (i.e. V807, V809, V810). So, I'm not going to F with the software for now.
I may do the mechanical mods shown in this thread if it annoys me enough, so thank to all for posting about it.

I'm posting the story in case there are software wizards out there that can either come up with a solution, or help Chevy fix their stuff (OK, I know that's unrealistic, lol).
I've worked on some Fords and have used FORScan. If you don't know, FORScan is an app-like thing that allows users to control a lot of details in the vehicles programming using an adapter through the OBD port. It allows adjusting features very specifically, item by item. It is a pretty cool thing, but I do not believe there is anything like it for GM or Chevy. Other than the dealer I suppose. I understand they have much more ability to mod programming than the owner's or private shops do.
 
Looking forward to your update @Gray Fox 19 .


Me? I followed this thread a while back because my '20 Z71 also thinks it's night time way too late in the morning, and way too soon in the late afternoon. Turns to night mode while it is most definitely still sunny and bright out... which is the issue addressed here.
Now, I'll be honest that, for now anyway, I've not done any mod to correct the issue. I've just been living with it, but hating it every time I can't see my screen because of it.

Here's my contribution to the thread, although I don't suspect it will help with any other solution as you'll see.
My sensor worked just fine when I got my truck.
It continued to work just fine until a certain trip to the dealership for some warranty work, specifically a radio software update.
Maybe you have read about, or are aware of the issue many have had with "ghosts in the machine" of their infotainment center; rebooting to flash screen on its own randomly, dead controls, changing volume on its own, etc.? There is a TSB (22-NA-033) about it. See this thread for reference: https://www.coloradofans.com/thread...do-lt-crashing-rebooting-with-apple-carplay.420141/page-9#nested_reply_top_post (there are several threads about the issue, but this one includes the most info IMHO.).
Anyway, as the TSB reads, a "radio software update" is the prescribed fix, and I had this update performed by a dealer at the end of May 2023.
Thankfully, the update did cure the problems I was having with the infotainment system. (knock on wood)
However, I'm sure most of you know, the "radio" is part of the brain of our trucks, and includes much more than the radio, apparently including things like this light sensor.
My sensor, or as I suspect, the programming for this sensor, has been fagazy since this update.
No, I did not go back to the dealer about it. The problems with the radio were a much bigger issue for me, and I'm just glad that is fixed. To be clear it wasn't just the radio, but every aspect of the infotainment system that was fubar; radio, all apps, climate control, navigation, bluetooth connections, etc.
They all work now.

I won't take the chance that going back to the dealer to reflash again might solve the light sensor issue, but mess up the infotainment center again. I'll leave well enough alone for now. Yeah, I'm not a dealership service department fan. In general.

Alas, I babble. My point is that I believe the sensitivity of the light sensor is programmable in some way. I don't think the core problem is the mechanics or electronics of the sensor itself, I think there is programming flashed in that sets the range, and that's what I think is wrong. If there was a procedure to adjust that, that I could have confidence in, I'd try that, but AFAIK there is not, it's all built into the one flash version (i.e. V807, V809, V810). So, I'm not going to F with the software for now.
I may do the mechanical mods shown in this thread if it annoys me enough, so thank to all for posting about it.

I'm posting the story in case there are software wizards out there that can either come up with a solution, or help Chevy fix their stuff (OK, I know that's unrealistic, lol).
I've worked on some Fords and have used FORScan. If you don't know, FORScan is an app-like thing that allows users to control a lot of details in the vehicles programming using an adapter through the OBD port. It allows adjusting features very specifically, item by item. It is a pretty cool thing, but I do not believe there is anything like it for GM or Chevy. Other than the dealer I suppose. I understand they have much more ability to mod programming than the owner's or private shops do.
Interesting. I did not notice any difference when I had my radio updated, but sure did when I did the modification outlined in this thread.
 
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