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Commenting on GDE's position on real world performance, my wife's GDE tuned Grand Cherokee Eco-Diesel flat hauls ass. It really puts you back in to the seat effortlessly all with a lifetime average of 28.X mpg mostly used in town.

My wife had a loner GC with a 5.7 Hemi and complained about it's performance. From her perspective the Hemi was a dog as she doesn't want to floor it and wait for 3 downshifts and 6K rpm before going anywhere. That Hemi also averaged 12 mpg with the exact same driver and application.

I have an '18 Canyon on order and it will get GDE as soon as it's available.
 
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Merged to general tune discussion thread.
@GreenDiesel please try to find an existing topic that may be relevant to your questions. Dont need to start a new thread each time you visit :wink2:
 
I thought he had a question/topic for a stand alone thread. His question did not relate to tuning options which is what this thread is titled.
Discussing aspects of tune qualities is a weighting factor for people trying to decide between tune products which is what this thread is for :smile2:
 
what was the cost of initial and then for the delete tune? curios because i don't know if i want to delete right away but if its another $700 I will just wait and get one tune thats deleted.
It's only another $50 to re-flash for the delete, so I would recommend getting the tune if you are keeping the DPF on for a bit. The biggest difference is in the trans tuning. My gas mileage is pretty insane right now, last 500 miles of 99% city driving is 30 MPG and that's on the Race Tune, but that is post delete. It was at 26-27 with just the tune and the emissions still intact.
 
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It really depends on what you want. Duramaxtuner and PPEI are both very well known for their work on the 6.6L Duramaxes.

PPEI will do delete tunes as well as emission intact tuning. DT only does emission intact tuning.
 
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PPEI or Duramax Tuner and why?
I am a big big Fan of PPEI but I think that if you want to keep the DPF you might want to go with Duramax tuner.. I am no expert or anything but the reasoning behind it is that Duramax tuner has bought a canyon and have been driving it for a very long time.

I don't know about kory at PPEI.. I am sure that his tune is also really good but duramax tuner has been perfecting it for a long time.

again just my opinion.
 
It really depends on what you want. Duramaxtuner and PPEI are both very well known for their work on the 6.6L Duramaxes.

PPEI will do delete tunes as well as emission intact tuning. DT only does emission intact tuning.
I am a big big Fan of PPEI but I think that if you want to keep the DPF you might want to go with Duramax tuner.. I am no expert or anything but the reasoning behind it is that Duramax tuner has bought a canyon and have been driving it for a very long time.

I don't know about kory at PPEI.. I am sure that his tune is also really good but duramax tuner has been perfecting it for a long time.

again just my opinion.
Yea, Screw that Emmissions BS. Doing a Flo Pro turbo back.

I talked to PPEI last week, The guy told me the 17's computers go crazy when they try and tune them. I called Duramax Tuner, they have a process for the 17's so I am going with them.
I just talked to them this month and they said their were no problems.

@ERJDriver merged your thread in here :wink2:
Thanks! Sorry, still learning where everything is at.
 
Yea, Screw that Emmissions BS. Doing a Flo Pro turbo back.
I really wanted to try their exhaust but given that they only have Aluminized and not SS I had to pass. :crying:
 
I've been really happy with Aaron's tuning from all in truck performance in Texas was gonna go with ppei originally but after talking with Aaron I went with him he is really dedicated to the 2.8 mini duramax are truck has 16k miles tuned it at 5k miles first time I had to put DEF in was the last time.I also have Aaron's trans tuning as well transmission shifts really nice I mostly keep it in level 3 for daily driving he's a great guy to deal with and stands behind what he sells.
 
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I was not asking about 'claimed' performance...I was asking about measured performance...big difference! Claimed dyno numbers are more common in the diesel aftermarket as we have seen, since most of these guys are using dynojet dynos which read about 10% higher than reality. The truck configuration is important for beginning performance data, but we are looking for A to B comparisons from folks, stock vs. tuned, so the data is valid as the truck is the same. We do our development on worst case vehicles for each application, i.e. the heaviest, 4x4 model available. FYI, the faster your 0-60, the more you are being shoved into your seat.

We have been in the after market tuning diesels only a few years, since 2009. Before that we worked as diesel calibration engineers for a few OEMs you might have heard of like Chrysler, Ford, GM, Caterpillar, Detroit Diesel, VM Motori and Mercedes. We are very astute in diesel engine hardware design and calibration. In the OEM world, we always measure 0-60 on every application...all diesel powered. Usually, we also do 40-60 mph passing along with 60-80 mph runs. The power/torque curve is fine an handy, but putting it to the ground in transient situations is a different ballgame. We also measure fuel economy, which seems to be amiss in the aftermarket, but this is where tuning can make a huge difference. Real fuel economy gains pay the customer back at the pump. Most every application we tune typically has a 40,000 mile return on investment where the tune pays for itself in less fuel burned. I think most aftermarket companies do not reveal this information because they can't deliver on it consistently.
I had not heard of "Green Diesel" before. Looking into tunes for my ZR2 following the warranty ending. Ill be sure to look into this more, and are interested in some hard numbers once you, or anyone else posts them. Your philosophy and outlook on the tuning market seems the most logical IMO. Power is great and ultimately what everyone wants, but being able to not drive it like a hot rod all the time, and save some gas is a +1 in my book.
 
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