[Goodspike]

I'm not saying no Prius battery ever failed, I'm saying the doom that "they're all going to wear out in seven years" never happened.

I have a neighbor that has a very old Prius which is now driven by their daughter. It's seemingly held up well, but I would question whether it's really getting much hybrid action at this point in time. It would be interesting to know if they've tracked their MPG over time.

Stated differently, I would think the battery could have failed but that the car would still be drivable.

 

[rotaryenginepete]

I'm not saying no Prius battery ever failed, I'm saying the doom that "they're all going to wear out in seven years" never happened.

I don't recall a doomsayer/magic number 7 claim, but statistically the average Prius driver going 15K per year will lose their NiMH battery at about 10-12yrs (between 150K-200K miles). So, for drivers that have long commutes, say 60-70 miles per day, 7yr battery life is entirely possible and does happen (which explains why the folks I know lost theirs right around the 150K mark).

The key is the installed infrastructure for the rapid charge at your basic Flying-J.

Maybe the key to making that infrastructure a reality is first finding a way to rapid charge without significantly degrading the battery...

Scientists find fast charging destroys electric vehicle batteries

Scientists have found that continually using high-powered, fast-charging points can decrease the life of EV car batteries.

thenextweb.com

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/12/16/new-data-shows-heat-fast-charging-responsible-for-more-battery-degradation-than-age-or-mileage/

Does Quick Charging Hurt Battery Life? Total Miles Are More Important

Some electric car makers, notably Nissan with its Leaf, make recommendations that owners don't charge too frequently using quick-charging stations. The belief is that the chemical processes involved in rapidly charging a battery can lead it to degrade faster than regular charges, reducing range...

www.greencarreports.com

Tesla Supercharger Effect on Battery Life: Does it Degrade Battery Life - Vehiclesuggest

Tesla’s own proprietary DC quick charging technology as found on its Model S, Model X and Model 3. the fastest electric car charging technology available to the public today is arguably one of the brand’s unique selling points. Supercharging technically capable of providing up to 145 kilowatts...

www.vehiclesuggest.com

 

[Goodspike]

I thought Fast Lane Truck was being incredibly misleading with this article about using the new hybrid to power two RVs. The battery isn't big enough to even power 12 volt charging for a significant period of time (unless my math is wrong). But then I saw what Ford is claiming--using the truck as a mobile generator. You can use it as such for 32 hours with a full tank of gas. I can't imagine using a 3.5 liter engine as a mobile generator for RV use, but I guess technically you could. And with the optional 7.2kW output system you could power two RVs with A/C. And it is presumably quieter than a portable generator, probably even quieter than a 1000 watt Honda inverter.

Hopefully you don't have to leave the keys (or fob) in the ignition (or nearby) to have the truck act as a mobile generator. That's the downside to our truck's AT&T hotspot service--something that makes it nearly worthless.

Video: The 2021 Ford F-150 Hybrid Can Power Your RV and Your Neighbor's RV! - The Fast Lane Truck

There is something to be said for a vehicle like the 2021 Ford F-150 Hybrid as an all-around, do-everything machine. It's a rolling generator!

tfltruck.com

 

[Goodspike]

Yet another FLT video. They are getting ridiculous with the commercials. Anyway, the Ford F-150 versus a Chevy V8 on the Ike Gauntlet. Both do really well up, but Ford not so well down. What's amazing to me though is the available payload on the Chevy is only about 200 pounds more than my Colorado! That's a lot more truck for very little more available payload. They also claim that the 9,200 pound trailer is maxing out the payload of the Ford. 9,200 is well below the max tow rating of that truck. Here's a link starting at the point of the Chevy weight sticker.

 

[thogland]

Yet another FLT video. They are getting ridiculous with the commercials. Anyway, the Ford F-150 versus a Chevy V8 on the Ike Gauntlet. Both do really well up, but Ford not so well down. What's amazing to me though is the available payload on the Chevy is only about 200 pounds more than my Colorado! That's a lot more truck for very little more available payload. They also claim that the 9,200 pound trailer is maxing out the payload of the Ford. 9,200 is well below the max tow rating of that truck. Here's a link starting at the point of the Chevy weight sticker.

Payload vs Towing - not the same thing.

 

[Goodspike]

Payload vs Towing - not the same thing.

I assume you mean max towing. But yes, that's what I was trying to point out, that it was at max payload well before max towing (assuming FLT did their calculations right).

The problem I have with max towing is it's BS as to travel trailers. I even wonder if there's a single travel trailer/truck combination where the trailer weighs the max tow rating and doesn't exceed payload of the truck with only the driver in the truck.