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I've called 8 of the dealers around me and none of them have take-off wheels any more. Two of them said that Chevy is taking the original wheels back now, like a core. Does anyone have any insight on this?
 

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Maybe its the dealers around you? The dealerships here still do take-offs. I see a different set every time Ive been to my dealership...and Ive been there a lot recently..
 

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Just found a guy in my area flipping Colorado dealer wheels on craigslist. Kind of makes me mad, people could be getting good deals but instead here is somebody buying them up and flipping them for a higher price. Something just irks me about it, people should make money for adding or creating value not for just cornering the market and inflating the price.
 

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$500 still seems like a decent price for z71 wheels and tires. But still, I just can't stand the thought of making somebody else money for doing nothing.
 

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Just found a guy in my area flipping Colorado dealer wheels on craigslist. Kind of makes me mad, people could be getting good deals but instead here is somebody buying them up and flipping them for a higher price. Something just irks me about it, people should make money for adding or creating value not for just cornering the market and inflating the price.

It looks like he's the one possibly getting a good deal by beating the bushes for these. Do you know if it is a one time thing or do you see this pattern repeating by him?


It's called free enterprise. If folks know the price is overinflated and move on to a better deal he'll eventually take a loss to get rid of them. But, if anyone buys at his asking price then he'll continue looking for opportunities to make a few $$.


Please don't buy these if you feel they are overpriced. You'll get your hackles up every time you look at them on your truck.


Move on and keep looking.


Gusto!
 

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I was looking for a set of LT blade takeoffs for like 3 months before I found some. I was routinely calling 15 or so local dealers almost weekly asking for sets. I did find multiple 17" Z71 and the 18" LT rims in the process. Most dealers wanted $150-$250 for the set of rims w/o tires and sensors. About a month ago I got very lucky. Called a dealer like 45 minutes away and got new takeoff LT blades for $150 for everything. Wheels, tires, sensors, everything. I realize I got very lucky but you just gotta keep calling around.
 

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I got a bit of insight into this recently, Chevy gives dealers a $50 core fee per tire. Any dealer just taking the core fee needs to be 'educated'.

I'm still annoyed by the local situation, so many people just sitting on these wheels in Midwest, it's obnoxious. Just had a dealer refuse to come down from $550 even though he has been sitting on 2 sets for months. It's just nonsense in the Chicago area while other regions are struggling to move them at $400.
 

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Entire wheels, monitors and rims if bought new would cost between $1500-2000. (center caps alone are $26 each)
Most of the take offs that have been bought and sold here on the forums have gone for between $400-600.

So, to get a brand new set, complete for $550 is pretty much the going rate. Not sure if your dealer 'took them' or gave the original owner a break on some other add ons, but at the end of the day, that price seems just right here on the East coast.

PS....bought by take offs for $600 and sold my take offs for I believe $500, all here on the forums. :nerd:
 

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Entire wheels, monitors and rims if bought new would cost between $1500-2000. (center caps alone are $26 each)
Most of the take offs that have been bought and sold here on the forums have gone for between $400-600.

So, to get a brand new set, complete for $550 is pretty much the going rate. Not sure if your dealer 'took them' or gave the original owner a break on some other add ons, but at the end of the day, that price seems just right here on the East coast.

PS....bought by take offs for $600 and sold my take offs for I believe $500, all here on the forums. :nerd:
$550 seems on the high side. $400-$500 is pretty common from what I have tracked. The flippers in my area no doubt paid less than or near $400 but there is an artificial price floor right now due to the mass of flippers not wanting to take a loss. One flipper admitted he was holding on to them because he thinks demand will go up in the next few years as people start actually needing replacements. That's fine, it's his right to be a non-producing, non-value-adding parasite on the market. All I can do is hope one of these guys breaks and gets tired of sitting on them or find a dealer that is currently trading for core value and convince them to sell to me instead.

I have spent alot of time on the phone and email regarding this. It's comical, some of the flippers are frustrated by the other flippers. I point out to the $800 flipper that there is a $500 flipper sitting on 2 sets of wheels and he is annoyed, and he is like yeah I know that guy no I wont beat his price. The cheapest flipper here keeps getting his listings deleted off of craigslist but not where he lists them in other surrounding areas. There is some crazy stuff going on around here. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a real effort to corner the market. Hell, I'd consider it if I didn't have moral problems with it.

Here's a company near me that sucks up these wheels: https://www.rpmtakeoffs.com/

"RPM Motors has been in business for over 15 years. After purchasing new OEM takeoff wheels and tires for our own vehicles for many years we have expanded to offer these incredible deals to our customers for their own vehicle! "

Hah. Incredible deals plus your parasite profit.

Now you can make an argument that this isn't exploitative and these individuals/companies flipping wheels are merely storing the product in between luls in demand and that would be a fair criticism.

However, I believe most people are ignorant to the existence of dealer takeoffs and this is merely an exploitation of information asymmetry. Even I had no idea these deals existed a year ago.

What really drives me nuts is that I would probably pay $500 even. As I mentioned there was a flipper that offered $500 but I just can't do it. I can't bring myself to help make any money for a flipper. If it were an individual selling their own (or even a dealer) I would have done it.
 

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Isn't the free market economy a wonderful thing? People can put forth some effort to gain knowledge, time to make the contacts, then put forth some speculative capital, and hopefully, if they were right, they might even be able to make some money selling the stuff for a profit! I think griping about them actually making money is a socialist little snowflake thing to do. If you don't like what they are doing, beat them at their own game,
offer the dealer more than the other guys so you can get the takeoffs (that free market thingie)
Then sell them at what you think is a reasonable profit to cover your time, effort and costs.
And wahla, you are now a capitalist pig!!!!! Then you might find other ways of making money. Might even have to employ people, then you can get a taste of the real costs of owning a business........
 

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My dealer has a set of SLT takeoffs. $425.00 EACH! Yes for one wheel. Tires are not included.
 

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Isn't the free market economy a wonderful thing? People can put forth some effort to gain knowledge, time to make the contacts, then put forth some speculative capital, and hopefully, if they were right, they might even be able to make some money selling the stuff for a profit! I think griping about them actually making money is a socialist little snowflake thing to do. If you don't like what they are doing, beat them at their own game,
offer the dealer more than the other guys so you can get the takeoffs (that free market thingie)
Then sell them at what you think is a reasonable profit to cover your time, effort and costs.
And wahla, you are now a capitalist pig!!!!! Then you might find other ways of making money. Might even have to employ people, then you can get a taste of the real costs of owning a business........
That went off the rails quick. It annoys me a bit to see people dressing up a bit of hustle as if it's nation-building glorious capitalism at work.

Somewhere buried deep in all of that ideology is your argument. One that I already touched upon and explained might be a valid criticism.

If you think I am griping about them making money, you are confused. I think it's great when people make money for adding value and generally markets do a decent job of making that happen.

As for your idea of 'offer the dealer more than the other guys so you can get the takeoffs (that free market thingie)' that's exactly what I want to do. I even said I want to do that.

However, that is easier said than done as I suspect there is some 'buddy buddy' stuff going on, probably involving cash under the table. Generally the employees at the parts department have no incentive to sell the wheels at a high price and have a strong incentive to sell them cheap with a bit of cash under the table, since they make the same hourly wage either way.

Real revenge on these flippers would be to solve what I believe is the real problem, lack of knowledge of the existence of dealer take off wheels.

Anyway, one of the beauties of the free market is that if I don't want to buy something from a flipper because I think society would be better served by them engaging in any number of far more productive activities, I get to do that. I'm not entitled to these take offs at any price nor are they entitled to sell them. It is what it is.
 

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Yup. I agree. $500 to $600 for Z71 (Dark Argent Gray Accent wheels) and the stock Wrangler Adventurer Kevlar Tires is about average. I have seen some real steal as low as $100 per wheel/tire combo, but that was without delivery.

Then, if you can get $200 to $400 for your original stock tire/wheels it is a fair trade.
That's about what I did and am satisfied with it.
 

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Yup. I agree. $500 to $600 for Z71 (Dark Argent Gray Accent wheels) and the stock Wrangler Adventurer Kevlar Tires is about average. I have seen some real steal as low as $100 per wheel/tire combo, but that was without delivery.

Then, if you can get $200 to $400 for your original stock tire/wheels it is a fair trade.
That's about what I did and am satisfied with it.
I just found ANOTHER flipper today in my area at $500, I need to figure out their source and figure out what the secret handshake is. Do I need to just be blunt with the dealers, "I'll give you $300 and $100 cash?"

That makes a total of 5 confirmed flippers in my area and 8+ suspected flippers (their price is too high to even bother with).
 

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Lots of deals on everything to be had until flipper gets a hold of it. I hate flipper.
 

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Real revenge on these flippers would be to solve what I believe is the real problem, lack of knowledge of the existence of dealer take off wheels.
Randy, Thanks for bringing this up. I'm in the Chicago area as well and look around from time to time knowing I'll be needing a new set eventually. Haven't ever come across anything decent and am with you in not supporting the flippers who are taking the tires you or I could be getting.
 
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Lots of deals on everything to be had until flipper gets a hold of it. I hate flipper.
There are certain exceptions where flippers work to improve things, take on more risk than others would tolerate, or store items with low demand that wont sell until demands picks up where they aren't behaving parasitically. But in cases where they are taking advantage of information asymmetry (buyer or seller doesn't know what an item is worth or where else to get it), cornering the market, effectively stealing from their supplier's employer by taking cash under the table, etc. all they are doing is adding inefficiency to the system and it's a net loss to society, the economy, etc.

Still, I don't fault people for behaving in what they think is their best interest, it's just not for me. I'm lucky to be comfortable enough in life that I get to behave like I am above it all.

I had no idea what a rabbit hole this was going to be, I saw all the good deals in surrounding regions and thought it would be just as easy here.

This has been fun. I'm learning alot.
 

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It's Chicago, what do you expect?
Have you checked Laura GMC, they do lots of aftermarket wheels, might have what you want.
Maybe call the off-road places, they probably do more take-offs then dealers which is where the "flippers" may be getting theirs.
 
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