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Harsh ride on Canyon Denali - What options are there?

Picked up my Ď18 Canyon Denali last August. Itís been a fine truck overall. My two chief complaints are the transmission that is not responsive and always wants to be in a high gear for fuel economy, and the suspension can seem to rough. Especially in the winter on the rough NorthEast roads.

When I was test driving I though the Colorado with the Z71 suspension road great, and was softer than the Denali. Does anyone know the differences between the two trucks? Iím curious what options I might have available to me, thanks!
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Picked up my Ď18 Canyon Denali last August. Itís been a fine truck overall. My two chief complaints are the transmission that is not responsive and always wants to be in a high gear for fuel economy, and the suspension can seem to rough. Especially in the winter on the rough NorthEast roads.

When I was test driving I though the Colorado with the Z71 suspension road great, and was softer than the Denali. Does anyone know the differences between the two trucks? Iím curious what options I might have available to me, thanks!
Hmmm..
I donít have a responsive issue with the eight speed.
As far as suspension, I drove both in the North East before buying a Z71, and thought the ride of both vehicles was virtually identical. Check your tire pressure, as if there is too much air you will have a rougher ride. Remember, it is still a truck, but one of the most compliant in the segment.

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Colder weather a bit stiffer suspension. Are you driving with the 4x4 on?
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Low profile tires are the main cause. My SLT rides the same way. The SLE I test drove was softer. The ride will improve a bit after winter.

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Low profile tires are the main cause. My SLT rides the same way. The SLE I test drove was softer. The ride will improve a bit after winter.
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It's your low profile tires. You can opt for a slightly taller tire to add more sidewall or sell your wheels/tires and buy a 17" wheel/tire combo. Handling will suffer a little but comfort will be better.

The cold temps are not helping either. Below 45F all-season tires stiffen up and become less compliant. Traction is reduced and the ride becomes harsher. Next time you purchase tires look for ones with the 3-peak severe snow rating.

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I had the same issue with my Denali. Specifically on highway expansion joints. Ditched the low profile tires and upgraded the suspension to Kings. Itís a lot better now but weight helps. Unloaded itís still a bit unsettled for my taste. Loaded itís great.


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Of course the trade off is handling. I certainly can't complain about that. It's amazing for a truck. It might even help the fuel economy too. Best of all is a good increase in stability while towing. I would buy an SLT again or a Denali.

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Like stated the tire wheel size. You can change it and it will improve some.

I had read the Denali also had specific shocks and struts but never confirmed this by checking the numbers.

To me it rides fine as my last two rides were cars with 18 inch 50 and 55 series tires so the Densli was a smoother ride for me.

You will get more side wall roll on the 17Ē but you will get use to it.

No change in MPG. I already get the same or better mpg than most other 17Ē trucks. So I expect you will remain the same.
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When I was test driving I though the Colorado with the Z71 suspension road great, and was softer than the Denali. Does anyone know the differences between the two trucks? Iím curious what options I might have available to me, thanks!
The Z71 has the same suspension as the Denali.
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Don't have a Denali, got a Colorado Lt, where I'm guessing the suspensions are basically the same? And I know I'm not too crazy about the ride over patchy, bumpy roads either, smooth highway no complaints. To be honest it doesn't ride much better than my 2,000 Ranger that had 250.000 miles over the same bumpy, tar patchy roads. And my concern is what it's going to ride like after 100,000 or so? I just feel with fuel economy being a priority nowadays many parts are lighter and thinner, which don't absorb road shock as well, and translates through the vehicle for a rougher ride, just my opinion. My Brother in law even says the same with his full size Chevy as compared to his older full size.
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Don't have a Denali, got a Colorado Lt, where I'm guessing the suspensions are basically the same? And I know I'm not too crazy about the ride over patchy, bumpy roads either, smooth highway no complaints. To be honest it doesn't ride much better than my 2,000 Ranger that had 250.000 miles over the same bumpy, tar patchy roads. And my concern is what it's going to ride like after 100,000 or so? I just feel with fuel economy being a priority nowadays many parts are lighter and thinner, which don't absorb road shock as well, and translates through the vehicle for a rougher ride, just my opinion. My Brother in law even says the same with his full size Chevy as compared to his older full size.
I think it has more to do with the increased payload and towing compared to those older trucks.

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Actually I find the ride in today's truck much better as well as the handling. Exspecially the 4x4 models.

As for the future these trucks are not really that light. They are nearly the same as full size truck weights in the past and now we have fully boxed frames. Even the cab shell is a very stiff structure with todayís computer designs.

For example the cab is stiff enough for the ZR2 rock bars or the step and nerf bars.

My S10 and Sonoma did have some chassis flex my 2017 crew is pretty stout in comparison..
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I have an 18 Denali and live in PA. It's cold here too, I changed my tires back in the fall and went to a bigger tire 275/55-20 Nitto Terra Grapler G2. I changed them because the Bridgestones are not a good winter tire, they are fine in the summer but not the winter because the are some what of a high mileage tire and the compound it a bit harder.
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I would put about 3-400lbs in the bed secured so it does not slide around. That will help the ride. When it warms up, loose a little of it.

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are you running any lift for level kit with those 275/55r20.... any rubbing?
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I have an 18 Denali and live in PA. It's cold here too, I changed my tires back in the fall and went to a bigger tire 275/55-20 Nitto Terra Grapler G2. I changed them because the Bridgestones are not a good winter tire, they are fine in the summer but not the winter because the are some what of a high mileage tire and the compound it a bit harder.
Do you have a lift or any spacers with that size of tire? any rubbing?
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I have the RC 2" leveling kit on it. Well it's more like I have the RC 2" kit on the drivers side and 1-1/2" of the kit on the passenger side to offset the lean.

I have the a slight rub at full lock of the front wheels and I mean very slight and that is because I have the Weathertech mud flaps on the truck because I have the Colorado Fender Flares on it and the Weathertech flaps are molded to fit the flares.
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I think it has more to do with the increased payload and towing compared to those older trucks.
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Actually I find the ride in today's truck much better as well as the handling. Exspecially the 4x4 models.

As for the future these trucks are not really that light. They are nearly the same as full size truck weights in the past and now we have fully boxed frames. Even the cab shell is a very stiff structure with todayís computer designs.

For example the cab is stiff enough for the ZR2 rock bars or the step and nerf bars.

My S10 and Sonoma did have some chassis flex my 2017 crew is pretty stout in comparison..
I would think the larger size of these trucks (length, width) would make them ride better than the old S10/Sonoma trucks and even the 1st Gen Colorado/Canyons.



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Of course the trade off is handling. I certainly can't complain about that. It's amazing for a truck. It might even help the fuel economy too. Best of all is a good increase in stability while towing. I would buy an SLT again or a Denali.
I hadn't thought about the improvement in stability while towing.

I actually am strongly considering a Colorado Z71/LT or Canyon All Terrain for a replacement in another 3-4 years because I want to get away from the 18" wheels for the ride and for the cost of tires. Less rubber with the 18" wheels but higher price. Why? (Cuz they can.)

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I would put about 3-400lbs in the bed secured so it does not slide around. That will help the ride. When it warms up, loose a little of it.
I used to buy a few hundred lbs. of bulk/loose sand from a landscaping supply place. If you (or the numbskull with bald tires in front of you) gets stuck, you could shovel some sand in front of the tires for traction. It doesn't cost much, the weight helps, and snow melt or water can drain through it. Then in the spring, I dumped it into the kids sandbox...

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The biggest difference in these trucks vs. the old ones is definitely the increase in towing capacity. Throw that on a short bed with short sidewalls and it continues to compound upon itself. I was surprised at the difference in ride between the CCLB and CCSB, it made the choice for the bigger bed that much easier.
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