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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-07-2019, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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Buy a 15-16 by truck or hold out for a 17+?

Title says it all. In the market for a CCLB and all the ones I can find are the older v6 and 6 speed. Should I hold out for the 17+ and 8 speed? Are the 15-16's still good motors? I put 250k miles on my trucks so looking for reliability first and foremost. Thank you for any advice.
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You put 250K on your truck but, didnt mention in how long/short of a time.


As for the 15-16s vs the 17-18s. Neither one has has any motor issues that are much of a concern to the point Id worry. (the 15s had an issue where it was blowing off oil lines but thats been fixed long ago) Why they changed the motor is beyond me, unless perhaps because the one motor wouldnt bolt up to the 8 speed tranny perhaps? Cant say I ever investigated the reason.


The trannys though had different issues.

The 15-16s were mostly fixed with a module flash early last year and 95% did NOT need any of the torque convertor/flush issues you may be aware of.


The 17-18s though did have the dreaded shudder that from the looks of it, seems that GM might be on the right track of finally resolving with the latest fluid change (although I admit I havent keep too tuned into it as I have a 16 and no tranny issues)


So now you need to ask yourself, whats my budget. Naturally a 15-16 will cost less than the 17-18s but the 15-16s are still under their powertrain warranty (unless they surpassed it on mileage)



Personally, my 16 is rock solid and Ive said it many times here before.....if it got stolen tonight, Id want the same exact truck.....engine and tranny combination from the 2016 would be perfect.



The HP differences between the 2 sets were minimal and, I rarely can even tell when my 6 speed is shifting so, dont have a friggin clue why Id want/need an 8 speed. Im sure those with an 8 speed will tell you why its better but, my old butt cant tell the difference and Ive driven both classes. Ive had friends of mine in the passenger seat ask me 'what gear are you in' and for the life of me, I never know.

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For some strange reason I was looking at used Colorados yesterday on the internet. My thoughts on this the 17s and 18s are holding their value. Did not see anything as a great deal.

For my money, if I was in the market for a used Colorado and money was a big consideration I’d look into a 15 or 16. I believe the earlier models to be good as later ones. I’d have no qualms owning a 15 - 16.

Every time I make that payment on my new 18 I think I should have looked at a good used truck. But, I’m one of those guys that will always take a new shiny penny over a used nickel. Sad but true.

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Thank you for the response. I typically put that mileage on a truck in 5-6 years.
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The 17+ is quite a bit faster 0-60mph. Now that the "chuggle" issue has been fixed with the trans flash the only real difference IMO is the acceleration off the line. If you don't care about that and find a killer deal on a 15-16 then go for it. I've owned a '16 CCLB and an '18 CCSB. Both were/are solid trucks except that chuggle issue on the '16 and all of them had leaking front axle seals at one time or another.
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all of them had leaking front axle seals at one time or another.
He lies, my 2WD doesnt leak.

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He lies, my 2WD doesnt leak.

*shakes his fist* Why I oughta!
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The downside to the 15 is it doesn't have Apple Car Play or Google, plus some other tech items were updated like the DIC screen. If I was shopping I'd keep that in mind at least, but to me either 15-16 would be dependable.
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IMO, I would opt for the 15-16, given the known 17+ transmission issues. No brainer to me.
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check car guru, not sure where you live but I found 5 2017 and 2 2016 crew cab long beds with in 100 miles of St. Louis, all priced around $28K
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I've never driven a 6-speed model, so my opinion is probably moot, but as someone who's not had any issues in 10,000 miles of ownership, I can say the 8-speed programming is about the best shifting automatic transmission truck I've ever driven (comparing to 90's and mid-2000's era Rangers, 1500 Chevy's, and Ford 250's) for DD purposes. It shifts up and down when you want it without having to make exaggerated pedal inputs to command shifts.

Although I do wish the ZR2 came with paddle shifters to play with when I'm using off-road mode and want to feel like a baby race truck, but that's a different topic.
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Having owned a used 2015 for a short time, I would probably avoid that year as it is the first model year of the new generation. I had several quirky things I attributed to first year bugs. I would also agree with getting a truck that has CarPlay. It is a very important feature to me, especially since Waze has been added to CarPlay.

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check car guru, not sure where you live but I found 5 2017 and 2 2016 crew cab long beds with in 100 miles of St. Louis, all priced around $28K
Sorry but if Im going to pay $28K, you are close to the price of a new one. With the year change, Im sure he can find a new one for only a few bucks more.
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I had the same dilemma. I found a '17 with 14k miles in my price range. Lots of folks will say you can get a new one for nearly the price of a used one, but not at the dealerships around here. I really couldn't decide between the '16 and the '17+ (I had ruled out the '15s for reasons wrankin outlined above) so it just came down to what one came along first. My 8-speed has been great so far (knock on wood).

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Sorry but if Im going to pay $28K, you are close to the price of a new one. With the year change, Im sure he can find a new one for only a few bucks more.

that is the used asking price on cclb 4wd's .He did not say if 2wd or 4wd.



I checked in my area on new 2019 CCLB 4wd are $5k off msrp(cheapest was $34) ZR2's are all about $7k off MSRP right now
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I've had my '16 now for a year and a half. I have no complaints. It did have the "chuggle" issue. This was fixed with a firmware update on the trans computer. The problem seemed to stem from the computer always wanting to err on the side of fuel economy and not wanting to downshift unless you mashed the pedal. If you have an iPhone, then the '[15 will have Car Play. But if you have Android, you'll need at least '16 as Android Auto was not available on the '15 - and you may still need a firmware update on the '16 to get it depending on whether or not the previous owner did it. Mine needed this update as well. Mine had 24k miles on it when I bought it, and now has 37k. Has not given me a lick of trouble.

I was wanting to hold out for '17+ as well for that 8-spd transmission, but I do not regret my purchase of a certified pre-owned '16 in any way. Especially with all the complaints I see about the 8-spd transmission. I love my truck.
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I will just say that my 2015 (which I bought used) has been very good. I really like this truck a lot. That said, I've driven a 2018 with the 8 speed, and while the overall power of the trucks is basically the same, the 2018 was noticeably quicker (which was more fun) off the line. It felt to me like how I'd imagine my 2015 to feel with a couple of minor mods, like say a ported throttle body and/or a tune. Make no mistake, the 15 and 16 engine and 6 speed are good also, so if a 16 fits in the budget better, then don't be too worried to go that route. Just make sure it is the very latest transmission TSB applied, and then go for it. The 2017 and up models are fantastic also....minus the risk for the 8 speed shudder. If I was to buy a used 2017 or newer model right now, I'd work something into the deal to have the fluid flushed and replaced with the latest fluid according to the procedures outlined in the latest TSB before I took it home.
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Thanks for the info fellas. I've opened up my search to include 15-16 models.
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If you have an iPhone, then the '[15 will have Car Play. But if you have Android, you'll need at least '16 as Android Auto was not available on the '15 - and you may still need a firmware update on the '16 to get it depending on whether or not the previous owner did it
My 2015 Canyon XLT did not have CarPlay, and I am pretty sure the 2015 Colorados' do not either. Just wanting to clarify.

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I picked up a fully loaded 2015 All Terrain a month ago and love the truck! I drove the latest LT and don't feel a difference. In fact after I picked up the truck I took it into the dealership for the trans flash and the truck drives great! Love it!
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